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Re: [MW:22577] Re: Material Certificate EN 10204-3.2 without TPI Witness

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That's true but it is common in ME for clients to ask for 3.2 certs for products. The client appoints or approves an agency to witness tests and the appointed agency issues 3.2 cert for the scope of inspection assigned.

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Prakash. G.
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EN 10204 is applicable to metallic parts, not to equipment.
Therefore a certificate according to this standard can not cover operational or functional aspects of a pump. motor, valve etc
Please read carefully the scope of application of EN 10204

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From: Dick Overkleeft <dick.overkleeft@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: 14/12/2014 16:10
Subject: Re: [MW:22569] Re: Material Certificate EN 10204-3.2 without TPI Witness
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Dear Afhin, you are correct.Normally the inspecteren is this party  and independent from the manufacturer.  You have  to  make sure  if all  parts  have te be delivered,  with the in won certificaten,  issues by their own manufacturer. For example,  pump and motor, etc.
The cliënt  specification,  might  indicate  with third party is tot be used.
Best regards,
DICK Overkleeft 

Op 14 dec. 2014 10:30 schreef "Afshin" <ar.mermco@gmail.com>:

    Dear All,

    I have a question about difference between material certificate and inspection certificate both grade 3.2, I am doing business in the field of pump and my customer asked for inspection certificate type 10204 3.2, but pump package includes motor, pump, base plate, coupling and etc. I think inspection certificate means presence of inspector during performance test and declare that package manufactured based on project specification and order.

    Regards,
    Afshin 

    On Monday, December 9, 2013 9:49:56 PM UTC+3:30, BK wrote:

    Dear Experts

    As per project Specification the Material Certificate requirement for primary structural steel (S355 G8 M) is EN 10204-3.2. 

    We received Mill Certificates along with material and in that it is mentioned "Certificate as per EN 10204-3.2" but the Third Part Inspector from Client and Third Party Inspector from EPC contractor REVIEWED and STAMPED at manufacturer's location. And no any evident on Mill Certificate that the tests were witnessed by any third party inspector, but it is stated 3.2 Certificate.
     
    By Definition of 3.2 Certificate Third Party Inspector shall have witnessed the tests stated in the certificate. 

    Please clarify the following:

    1. Is it acceptable 3.2 certificates without Third Party Inspector WITNESS ? 

    2. On what basis manufacturer declaring 3.2 ?

    3. Is it acceptable if manufacturer declared 3.2  without showing any evidence. 

    Regards
    BK 

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