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[MW:36060] Peaking & Banding Inspection API 650 Tanks

As per API 650, local deviations from the theoretical shape (for example, weld discontinuities and flat spots) shall be limited as follows: a) Deviations (peaking) at vertical weld joints shall not exceed 13 mm (1/2 in.). Peaking at vertical weld joints shall be determined using a horizontal sweep board 900 mm (36 in.) long. The sweep board shall be made to the nominal radius of the tank. b) Deviations (banding) at horizontal weld joints shall not exceed 13 mm (1/2 in.). Banding at horizontal weld joints shall be determined using a straight-edge vertical sweep board 900 mm (36 in.) long. How is this value verified at site? For example, at a vertical joint, if one side shows 6 mm and the other side shows 7 mm, is it acceptable? Or should the average be considered? Also, how can we determine whether the deviation is negative (-) or positive (+)? Can anyone please explain? -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this mess...
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Re: [MW:36061] Peaking & Banding Inspection API 650 Tanks

What API 650 is asking you to check API 650 limits local shape distortion at welds: Vertical seam → peaking (a local “kink”/step at the vertical joint) Horizontal seam → banding (a local “belt”/flat/step around the circumference at a horizontal joint) In both cases the maximum allowed deviation is 13 mm. A) How to verify peaking at a vertical weld (sweep board – 900 mm) Tools: 900 mm long curved sweep board (curved to the nominal tank radius) + feeler gauge / wedge gauge (or a dial gauge). Field method: Put the sweep board horizontally across the vertical weld seam so it spans ~450 mm each side of the weld (board centered on the weld). Hold it snug to the shell (usually you rotate/shift it slightly to ensure it’s seated properly). Measure the maximum ga...

Re: [MW:36050] Weld overlay on F6 Nm

Yes, literature is available, but looking for actual production experience as normally martensitic SS.  , weld overlay is not performed.  Regards, Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, May 11, 2026, 4:04 PM, sridhar cn <sridharcn305@gmail.com> wrote:   Though I have not done actual overlay, what I could gather from the available literature is that,  F6NM Stainless Steel weld overlay is   commonly   done in hydro turbine parts, valve internals,  and  pump sleeves   . The success of overlay depends much  more on dilution  control,   hydrogen control, and post-weld hardness management than on the actual deposition process itself.  F6NM / CA6NM  is  a  P6, air hardening l ow carbon martensitic stainless steel  with a pprox. 13%...

Re: [MW:36051] Weld overlay on F6 Nm

What problems are you expecting to face during pre and post overlay welding operations?  You have not yet spelled out whether it will be Stellite, Ni based or SS based overlay and on what thickness?  Could mention only the expected problems and precautions /solutions to avoid them in advance.  Unless the actual welding (PQR) is done, we will not know what practical problems to face.  Think you can guide us with your experience. All the Best!! rgds, On Mon, 11 May 2026 at 22:32, 'manish kulkarni' via Materials & Welding < materials-welding@googlegroups.com > wrote: Yes, literature is available, but looking for actual production experience as normally martensitic SS.  , weld overlay is not performed.  Regards, Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, May 11, 2026, 4:04 PM, sridhar cn < sridharcn305@gmail.com > wrote: ...

Re: [MW:36054] Weld overlay on F6 Nm

1. Use Preheat of 150degC to 250degC. Higher preheat temperature may result in retained Austenite and also upon overlay cool it to Room temperature or temperature below the Mf (Martensite finish temperature). 2. Use ER/ENiCrMo3 for the barrier layer as well as remaining passes. 3. Perform PWHT at least 30degC below the Material tempering temperature to avoid softening due to coarsening of carbides or pearlite spherodization. 4. Post heat at 300degC after welding may be beneficial to drive away Hydrogen. Thanks & Regards J.Gerald Jayakumar 0091-8838619635 On Tuesday, 12 May 2026 at 05:12:45 pm IST, 'manish kulkarni' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote: We are qualifying PQrs for 625 WO on F6 Nm.   I foresee risk due to micro structure changes due to higher PWHt temp against tempering temp of ...