Saturday, June 30, 2018

[MW:28014] Hardness testing - Individual readings NACE MR0175/ISO 15156

QUESTION:
Typically, when an indentation fails the micro hardness test several additional indentations are made and measured in the same area as the suspect indentation on the same weld test coupon. The results are then averaged. If the additional indentations average is acceptable, the survey is considered acceptable. This is in line with the NACE MR0175 Part 2 Section 7.3 "Hardness" paragraph 7.3.2 "Parent Materials" which allows additional hardness readings in the adjacent areas of a failed hardness reading. Logically, the same testing methodology would apply to welds, even though it is not specifically stated in the standard and subsequent paragraphs of Part 2. I would like to clarify if the above is acceptable with regards to Vickers HV 10 micro hardness testing / re-testing requirements for welds while conforming to NACE MR0175 Section 7.3.3 Welds.




ANSWER:
Maximum acceptable hardness values for carbon steel, carbon-manganese steel and low-alloy steel welds are given in Table A.1.
No individual readings above these limits are acceptable for welds.


Ref #  :MP INQUIRY #2014-07

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[MW:28012] RE: 28011] piping Fitness for service API 579

Fitness for Service is an Engineering Analysis. Not  just an on the spot decision. Please consult your piping specialist with the inspection data and accordingly proceed for FFS as required.

 

Also note:- Engage only certified companies or if done  in house use, API-579 trained personnel.

 

Thanks.

 

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dinesh Somwanshi
Sent: June 29, 2018 4:22 AM
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Subject: [MW:28011] piping Fitness for service API 579

 

Dear sir,

 

Is anybody having piping Fitness for service API 579  procedure & Inspection Form.

 

Its too urgent,

 

pls advice.


Thanks & Regards

 

DINESH VITTHAL SOMWANSHI

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Friday, June 29, 2018

[MW:28011] piping Fitness for service API 579

Dear sir,

Is anybody having piping Fitness for service API 579  procedure & Inspection Form.

Its too urgent,

pls advice.

Thanks & Regards

DINESH VITTHAL SOMWANSHI

BACHELOR IN MECHANICAL ENGINEER

AUTHORIZED PIPING / WELDING / NDT / PAINTING INSPECTION PERSONNEL
API 570 - Piping Inspector, AWS - CWI , CSWIP 3.1*,*BGAS  Gr 2 / 3
NDT II -UT , RT , MT , PT, VT
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Re: [MW:28010] Electrode for MS to SS409

E/ER 309 is suitable.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 4:09 PM, santosh nayak <san2.nayak@gmail.com> wrote:
Please can any one suggest the electrode for MS to SS409.

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Re: [MW:28009] size of welding specimen

Either refer ASME BPVC Section-IX mechanical test related pages or contact an established material testing laboratory engaged in this business. AI has no role in test specimen size selection. Manufacturer or Contractor is responsible for everything till final date of product guarantee period . 

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Souravbohray <ermechsouravbohray@gmail.com> wrote:
is there any standard size of weld specimen for single vee groove weld according to asme sec 9

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Re: [MW:28008] Re: Using of ER70S-6 in place of ER70S-2

It seems, some kind of trade secret really work behind this phenomena.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 7:21 PM, Janette Michelle <janettemacias@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your answers. After reviewing the material certs, they all meet the ER70S-6 standard, yet I have my welders saying that one brand of wire burns better over the other brand. What chemical component should I be looking for in terms of how good the wire burns?

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 1:57 AM, Pieper QSI <info@pieper-qsi.nl> wrote:
Most important is what kind of classification / certification is required for the wire and are the by manufacturer specified properties for the wire meeting your project requirements. If during WPQR qualification the requirements also comply with the requirements there is no need to investigate the chemical composition any further as long as the wire is an ER70S-6 wire on the certificate!

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 7 jun. 2018 om 18:27 heeft Janette M <janettemacias@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hello,

I need help regarding the ER70S-6 mig welding wire. I am currently comparing mill certs from different vendors and not sure which one is the best in terms of quality. Is there anything in particular I should be looking for?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 6:50:21 AM UTC-5, Diganta Sarma wrote:
Ti and Al are added to act as additional deoxidizers to cleanse the weld of impurities. In the case of MAG welding, additional Ti and Al into the standard ER70S-6 isn't mandated. In case you need them in the weld pool, consider changing the transfer mode to spray or rotating arc or pulsed mode. Some of these will require change of gas to a Argon based mixture

Many thanks!

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On 20 Sep 2016, at 7:43 PM, sanjeev singh <sanjeev...@gmail.com> wrote:

in ER70S6 we have added Ti- 0.011% and Al - 0.012%. We are facing spattering issue in MAG-CO2 .
Is Ti and Al reason for spattering?

Sanjeev 

On Saturday, 17 September 2016 17:39:35 UTC+5:30, sridhar wrote:
You have not mentioned the welding process in use at your end

If it is TIG, flat no. as 70 S2 contains triple deoxidisers Al, ZN & Ti and used with argon gas.
ER 70S06 does not have them and will not give x-ray quality welds.

If it is MAG/CO2 process or with argon gas, you can go ahead. 

Ti addition alone with 70 S6 do not help. S6 also contains excessive Mn & Si and not used for 
TIG process.

Sridhar.


From: sanjeev singh <sanjeev...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2016 11:40 AM
Subject: [MW:25396] Re: Using of ER70S-6 in place of ER70S-2

Please guide- If we add Ti in ER70S-6 in range of 0.011%, what will be the effect during CO2 welding?

regards,

Sanjeev

On Thursday, 10 January 2013 12:13:36 UTC+5:30, Ranendra Chakraborty wrote:
Dear Expert,
Please guide whether ER70S-6 can be used in place of ER70S-2. Please give code reference.
 
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Ranendra
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Re: [MW:28007] RT requirement for nozzle to shell welds



This joint is almost similar to hollow cylinder to weld-o-let or pipe spool to branch pipe. An experienced RT technician is capable to take RT of this joint. 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 6:30 PM, 'MALLIKARJUN SHAUKAR' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
hai,
it is possible to take RT of this joint check with RT technician.
Regards,
MLS

On ‎Monday‎, ‎25‎ ‎June‎ ‎2018‎ ‎17‎:‎53‎:‎21‎ ‎IST, Muhammed Ibrahim PK <ibratech@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear Experts,

I would like to get info on following scenario.

Design code : ASME Sec : VIII Div. I

RT requirement : RT1

Service : Not Sour / lethal /  cyclic etc (Sulfur recovery Incinerator package).

The vessel having set in type nozzle with full penetration groove. This nozzle to shell weld cannot be radio graphed (Not lip type).  Is it required to do UT of nozzle to shell weld (Category D) joints for this vessel  if RT is not possible ?.
 

Please see attached joint configuration.


Thanks & Regards
Muhammed Ibrahim PK

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[MW:28007] Re: reg: Maximum interpass temperature in a WPS

Update:  deleted in 2017 edition

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 6:34:57 AM UTC+4, Prince C thomas wrote:
Dear Sir's,

Kindly reply to  my below query:

We have project approved WPS with following details:

Material Spec: ASTM A106 Gr.B

P no:1/Group no:1

Material thickness: 1.5 -14.22 mm

Welding process: GTAW+SMAW

GTAW-Filler wire : ER 70S-2

SMAW-Electrode: E 7018

Preheat - 10 deg minimum

Interpass temp: 200 Deg C Maximum

In the PQR: pre heat temperature:38 deg C

                  Interpass temperature: 68 deg C maximum



Since interpass temperature is not a essential variable (Impact test is not applicable); but still our client is asking to recheck the max.interpass temperature value ( 200 Deg C) in the WPS. How to convince client to get approval on the same?






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[MW:28006] Re: QW-452.3 / QW 403.16 - GROOVE-WELD DIAMETER LIMITS // set-on or set-in type nozzles

Update : QW-403.16 Subparagraph (a) and (b) added –

(a) For a groove weld attaching a set-on nozzle or branch (with the weld preparation on the nozzle or branch), the range qualified from Table QW-452.3 shall be based on the nozzle or branch pipe O.D.
(b) For a groove weld attaching a set-in nozzle or branch (with the weld preparation on the shell, head, or run pipe), the range qualified from Table QW-452.3 shall be based on the shell, head, or run pipe O.D.
Background – Revised to define welder qualification diameter limits for set-on and set-in nozzle or branch connections.

On Friday, June 27, 2014 at 11:35:15 AM UTC+4, Rajesh S.Mhaske,Engineer Welding,CSWIP,ASNT,Pune, wrote:

Dear sir
           Pipe dia : 323.*33 mm thk
           Tube dia : 50.8 *6.35 mm thk
           Groove design for  above pipe to tube welding  : set in (groove on header )  / set on (groove on tube  )
           Welding process : GTAW + FCAW

           Qualification of welder: OD >73 mm and Thk - Max to be welded with process GTAW+FCAW
          
Question :
            1) Can above qualified welder be deployed for welding of set in and set on joint.
           

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[MW:28005] Re: WQT Acceptence by UT

Update: QW-191.2.1, Subparagraph (a) revised – The ultrasonic examination in QW-142 for welders and in QW-143 for welding operators may be conducted on 1/4 in. (6 mm) thick or greater.
Background – Minimum thickness for applicability of UT examination reduced to be consistent with Construction Codes, ASME Section VIII Divisions 1 and 2.

On Friday, August 24, 2012 at 2:12:07 AM UTC+4, Ajay Ror wrote:
Dear experts
is there any new ammandmends for welder qualification,where we can
accept UT Test istead of Destructive/RT Test ?

Regards
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Re: [MW:28003] SS 304 ELECTRODES

Since Fno and A no is same for both as per ASME sec 9, he can use it but at same check the application. 

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Prasu Cutie <pracuty@gmail.com> wrote:
Allowed provided if you have qualified PQR with E316 electrodes

Regards
Prasad

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, 6:18 a.m. Hani Al Masry, <hanyonalfy@gmail.com> wrote:
Welding of SS 304 is well known by E308 electrodes 
Some wenders by mistaked user E316 Electrodes iş this shoud be gauge out again?


Regards 
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Re: [MW:28002] SS 304 ELECTRODES

Allowed provided if you have qualified PQR with E316 electrodes

Regards
Prasad

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, 6:18 a.m. Hani Al Masry, <hanyonalfy@gmail.com> wrote:
Welding of SS 304 is well known by E308 electrodes 
Some wenders by mistaked user E316 Electrodes iş this shoud be gauge out again?


Regards 
HA

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Re: [MW:28001] SS 304 ELECTRODES

not necessary

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On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Hani Al Masry <hanyonalfy@gmail.com> wrote:
Welding of SS 304 is well known by E308 electrodes 
Some wenders by mistaked user E316 Electrodes iş this shoud be gauge out again?


Regards 
HA

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Thursday, June 28, 2018

[MW:27998] SS 304 ELECTRODES

Welding of SS 304 is well known by E308 electrodes 
Some wenders by mistaked user E316 Electrodes iş this shoud be gauge out again?


Regards 
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RE: [MW:27998] thickness qualified

Sec. IX ~ Maximum to be welded = Maximum thickness allowable for the code of construction.

For ASME B31.1 this is interpreted as unlimited thickness.

 

 

 

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joby Thomas
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 5:46 AM
To: Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MW:27996] thickness qualified

 

Hi,

 

can any one of you guys clarify what is maximum to be welded ?

 

does it mean the welder can weld unlimited thickness?

thank you

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 11:44:02 AM UTC+8, kannayeram gnanapandithan wrote:

For welder, deposited weld metal is essential. if you have welded 16mm butt joint with more than 3layers of deposition, he is qualified for max to be welded. Plate thickness is not essential for welder?


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On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:57 AM, 'Raja kumarasamy' via Materials & Welding <material...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Good morning

 

Could you please advise on this matter?

 

 

Sub-contractor welder qualified plate T: 16mm as per Sec IX. (maximum can be weld as per Table: QW-452.1(B)

 

shall he can be welded in a plate T: 10mm if possible, where is it mentioned in the Sec IX. Please….

 

 

 

Regards 

 

Raja kumarasamy

Welding & Piping inspector

Salalah LPG Project

Oman Gas Company (OGC)

 

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Re: [MW:27998] Re: Using of ER70S-6 in place of ER70S-2

Thanks for your answers. After reviewing the material certs, they all meet the ER70S-6 standard, yet I have my welders saying that one brand of wire burns better over the other brand. What chemical component should I be looking for in terms of how good the wire burns?

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 1:57 AM, Pieper QSI <info@pieper-qsi.nl> wrote:
Most important is what kind of classification / certification is required for the wire and are the by manufacturer specified properties for the wire meeting your project requirements. If during WPQR qualification the requirements also comply with the requirements there is no need to investigate the chemical composition any further as long as the wire is an ER70S-6 wire on the certificate!

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 7 jun. 2018 om 18:27 heeft Janette M <janettemacias@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hello,

I need help regarding the ER70S-6 mig welding wire. I am currently comparing mill certs from different vendors and not sure which one is the best in terms of quality. Is there anything in particular I should be looking for?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 6:50:21 AM UTC-5, Diganta Sarma wrote:
Ti and Al are added to act as additional deoxidizers to cleanse the weld of impurities. In the case of MAG welding, additional Ti and Al into the standard ER70S-6 isn't mandated. In case you need them in the weld pool, consider changing the transfer mode to spray or rotating arc or pulsed mode. Some of these will require change of gas to a Argon based mixture

Many thanks!

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On 20 Sep 2016, at 7:43 PM, sanjeev singh <sanjeev...@gmail.com> wrote:

in ER70S6 we have added Ti- 0.011% and Al - 0.012%. We are facing spattering issue in MAG-CO2 .
Is Ti and Al reason for spattering?

Sanjeev 

On Saturday, 17 September 2016 17:39:35 UTC+5:30, sridhar wrote:
You have not mentioned the welding process in use at your end

If it is TIG, flat no. as 70 S2 contains triple deoxidisers Al, ZN & Ti and used with argon gas.
ER 70S06 does not have them and will not give x-ray quality welds.

If it is MAG/CO2 process or with argon gas, you can go ahead. 

Ti addition alone with 70 S6 do not help. S6 also contains excessive Mn & Si and not used for 
TIG process.

Sridhar.


From: sanjeev singh <sanjeev...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2016 11:40 AM
Subject: [MW:25396] Re: Using of ER70S-6 in place of ER70S-2

Please guide- If we add Ti in ER70S-6 in range of 0.011%, what will be the effect during CO2 welding?

regards,

Sanjeev

On Thursday, 10 January 2013 12:13:36 UTC+5:30, Ranendra Chakraborty wrote:
Dear Expert,
Please guide whether ER70S-6 can be used in place of ER70S-2. Please give code reference.
 
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Re: [MW:27996] RE: 27990] Regarding Combined Welding Process WPS (GTAW+SMAW)

Thanks for the valuable information sir...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 3:40 PM, 'venkat chikkala' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear,

WPS: SMAW Can be used for root weld( Refer QW 200.4). Check root penetration can be achieved or not  .

WQT: With backing strip or for both side weld SMAW can be used( Backing is essensial variable for welder.

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CH V RAMANA

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 7:27 p.m., Kannayeram Gnanapandithan
ASME Sec XI may be referred. For WPS, joint design is not essential variable. 

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 6:52 pm Chaitanya Purohit, <qtech.consultants@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Vinoth,

 

If the weld is from one side without backing you can not replace Tig.

 

If welding is from both side, you can replace Tig with SMAW.

 

If welding is one side and if you have access from other side (to remove backing strip) or you are having option of permanent backing strip, you can replace Tig with SMAW.  

 

 

From: vinoth rajendra
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 12:25 PM
To: Materials & Welding
Subject: [MW:27990] Regarding Combined Welding Process WPS (GTAW+SMAW)

 

Dear Experts,

 

Please clarify,

 

we have a WPS & WQT for Combined welding process (TIG + SMAW)

 

Details:

 

Weld root pass: TIG welding

 

Weld Fillup: SMAW

 

can we use SMAW for Root pass instead of TIG process????

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Re: [MW:27996] thickness qualified

Hi,

can any one of you guys clarify what is maximum to be welded ?

does it mean the welder can weld unlimited thickness?
thank you

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 11:44:02 AM UTC+8, kannayeram gnanapandithan wrote:
For welder, deposited weld metal is essential. if you have welded 16mm butt joint with more than 3layers of deposition, he is qualified for max to be welded. Plate thickness is not essential for welder?

THANKS & BEST REGARDS,
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On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:57 AM, 'Raja kumarasamy' via Materials & Welding <material...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear all,

Good morning

 

Could you please advise on this matter?

 

 

Sub-contractor welder qualified plate T: 16mm as per Sec IX. (maximum can be weld as per Table: QW-452.1(B)

 

shall he can be welded in a plate T: 10mm if possible, where is it mentioned in the Sec IX. Please….

 



Regards 

 

Raja kumarasamy
Welding & Piping inspector
Salalah LPG Project
Oman Gas Company (OGC)

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Re: [MW:27995] RE: 27990] Regarding Combined Welding Process WPS (GTAW+SMAW)

Dear,

WPS: SMAW Can be used for root weld( Refer QW 200.4). Check root penetration can be achieved or not  .

WQT: With backing strip or for both side weld SMAW can be used( Backing is essensial variable for welder.

Regards,
CH V RAMANA
BVIL


On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 7:27 p.m., Kannayeram Gnanapandithan
<kgpandithan@gmail.com> wrote:
ASME Sec XI may be referred. For WPS, joint design is not essential variable. 

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 6:52 pm Chaitanya Purohit, <qtech.consultants@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Vinoth,

 

If the weld is from one side without backing you can not replace Tig.

 

If welding is from both side, you can replace Tig with SMAW.

 

If welding is one side and if you have access from other side (to remove backing strip) or you are having option of permanent backing strip, you can replace Tig with SMAW.  

 

 

From: vinoth rajendra
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 12:25 PM
To: Materials & Welding
Subject: [MW:27990] Regarding Combined Welding Process WPS (GTAW+SMAW)

 

Dear Experts,

 

Please clarify,

 

we have a WPS & WQT for Combined welding process (TIG + SMAW)

 

Details:

 

Weld root pass: TIG welding

 

Weld Fillup: SMAW

 

can we use SMAW for Root pass instead of TIG process????

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In NACE MR0175 Table A.22, are martensitic stainless steels “limitless”? Do they need qualifying?


Question:
In NACE MR0175/ISO 15156 -3, Table A.22 lists the “Environmental and materials limits for martensitic stainless steels used as compressor components.” The maximum partial pressure requirement for H2S directs you to see Remarks, and the Remarks state “Any combination of temperature, partial pressure of H2S, chloride concentration and in situ pH occurring in production environments are acceptable.” Does this remark indicate that conformance to the NACE MR0175/ISO 15156 is required for any amount of H2S? I am looking for clarification as to what “acceptable conditions” is referring to. As a centrifugal compressor manufacturer, we often build compressors for process gases which are a hydrocarbon mix containing a few parts per million or trace amounts of H2S.
Answer
Conformance to the Standard is required for any trace amount of H2S. In the case of Table A.22 the listed martensitic stainless steels can be used in any production environment provided they are in conformance with the metallurgical requirements indicated in the lower part of the Table. Note that item c) in Table A.22 requires a resistance in the anticipated service environment of at least 95% of the actual yield strength of the impeller material using Annex B for laboratory testing. Qualification requirements to ISO 15156 are listed in §8 of NACE MR0175/ISO 15156-1.
This question is in relation to NACE MR0175/ISO 15156-3 A.6.2, Table 22
Reference: ISO 15156 Maintenance Panel Inquiry #2010-06



[MW:34866] Presentation for WPS ,PQR AND WPQ as per ASME Sec IX in power point

Dear Experts.        If anyone having presentation of WPS,PQR and WPQ  as per ASME  SEC.IX  in power point then please share . Regards Sanja...