Thursday, November 3, 2011

RE: [MW:12821] BS EN 287-1 WPS vs. ASME IX WPS

Validity of WPS / PQR for EN ISO is endless as long as no essential
parameter is changed, welder qualification according to EN is valid for 2
years when prolongation is done by companies own welding coordinator every
half year based on results from the production. Every two year the notified
body, which has issued the original certificate, should control the
prolongation results and if OK extend the validity period for the next two
years.
In my opinion the requirements for ASME are almost similar but without the
interference of a notified body.

Met vriendelijke groeten / Best Regards

Herman Pieper

Pieper Quality Support & Inspection
Phone: +31 (0)521 380083
Fax: +31 (0)84 7539225
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Van: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
[mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] Namens chandra sekaran
Verzonden: woensdag 2 november 2011 6:00
Aan: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: [MW:12813] BS EN 287-1 WPS vs. ASME IX WPS

Respected sir/madam, i need a clariffication of how many
days or a month a wps/pqr validity. and please tell me the page no of asme
section 9 where it is mentioned

On 11/1/11, Pieper QSI <info@pieper-qsi.nl> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> The mentioned EN 288-1, 2, 3 and 4 are withdrawn and replaced by EN
> ISO
> 15609 up to EN ISO 15614 which are similar to the mentioned ISO versions.
>
> Please be aware that there is a new version of the EN 287-1 valid
> since July
> 2011 in which the validity range is changed compared to the previous
> addition.
>
> For example: fillet welds are no longer qualified when performing a
> welder qualification on butt welds.
>
> All qualifications should met the requirements of the latest edition
> regarding the validity range.
>
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten / Best Regards
>
>
>
> Herman Pieper
>
>
>
> Pieper Quality Support & Inspection
>
> Phone: +31 (0)521 380083
>
> Fax: +31 (0)84 7539225
>
> Cell: +31 (0)6 51691215
>
> www.pieper-qsi.nl
>
>
>
> Van: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] Namens alireza samimi
> Verzonden: maandag 31 oktober 2011 16:39
> Aan: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [MW:12802] BS EN 287-1 WPS vs. ASME IX WPS
>
>
>
>
> hi dear
>
> according to your explanation i think you do not know exactly any
> information aboutBS EN
>
> I would like to inform you BS EN 287-1 is not usefull for WPS AND PQR
> .and oly use for welder qualification.
>
> according to EN standard you should see EN 288-1,2,3,4 for WPS and PQR
> and according to ISO you must see ISO 15609 for wps and ISO 5614 for
> PQR
>
>
>
> WITH BEST REGARDS
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/31/11, ken waterhouse <waterhouse.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: ken waterhouse <waterhouse.ken@gmail.com>
> Subject: [MW:12801] BS EN 287-1 WPS vs. ASME IX WPS
> To: "Materials & Welding" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Monday, October 31, 2011, 4:42 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> Just started a new job as welding supervisor. Aside from lots and lots
> of other crap that is wrong with the way the company is doing things
> at the moment, they have such a scattered array of WPS's in both ASME
> IX and BS EN 287-1 that it is almost impossible to collate and use all
> the information.
>
> Our biggest client (national electricity supplier) is shifting to an
> entirely BS EN 287-1 controlled system, from a mix of ASME and BS EN,
> which means that we as a subcontractor of theirs must do the same.
>
> I'm busy working through the WPS's available to me so far and trying
> to relate them to one another, to see where we need to formulate
> completely new WPS's and where we can trans-code them to their
> equivalents. Also just to get the list of all of them in one place.
>
> What I'm hoping is that someone out there has done something similar
> to this before and how you approached it.
>
> If it helps at all, our BSEN WPS #'s look like this S B 3 03. 8 (20) S
> (SMAW, Butt, material 3, Sequence number 03, filler 8, Preheat 20
> deg., Stress relieving)
>
> and our ASME IX ones are as follows M B x 1. 8 (20) S (SMAW, Butt,
> Symbol [on drawing], material group 1, filler group 8, 20deg. preheat
> and stress relieving)
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ken
>
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