Monday, April 19, 2010

RE: [MW:4875] requirements for PWHT

Hi Sakib,

There is nothing wrong to support a weld requiring 2 hrs -15 mins of PWHT as per ASME Sec-VIII,DIV-2, to support with a PQR which was performed  with 4 hrs of PWHT (assuming at the same temperature).

As per  QW-407.2 -A change in the post weld heat treatment (see QW-407.1) temperature and time range--) is a supplementary essential variable)-

  • The procedure qualification test shall be subjected to PWHT essentially equivalent to that encountered in the fabrication of production welds, including at least 80% of the aggregate times at temperature(s). The PWHT total time(s) at temperature(s) may be applied in one heating cycle.

If you have to subject the above vessel to 2 Stress Relieving operations, in case of any repair after PWHT then a PQR with 2 hrs -15 mins would not support your welding procedure specifications. 

It's always better to qualify PQR's with some additional PWHT time, considering  additional weld repair after SR, which may necessitate SR again

Hope this clears your doubt.

Thanks.

 
Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.
Welding & Metallurgical Engineer/Specialist
 
 


From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karthik
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:40 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:4849] requirements for PWHT

hi,
the calculated time might be the minimum holding time.also u haven't mention about the holding temperature as per the code and actual holding temperature used in PQR.anyhow during PQR it may be used the lower temperature wuth extra holding time or may be due to the temperature fluxations they have maintain the more holding time or the material thickness used in PQR might be require 4hour holding temperature.
 
If u have any quiries pls.feel free to ask.
 
regards

Karthikeyan.S
 
Getabec Energy Co.,Ltd.
379,Moo6,Soi8,Nikhomphatana,
Rayong-21180,
Thailand.
Phone: 0066 38 897035-8 (Off)
Fax: 0066 38 897034
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--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Sakib <sakib321@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sakib <sakib321@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MW:4845] requirements for PWHT
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:23 PM


i have cladding of 25.22.2 urea material on carbon steel plate of thickness 110 mm
as per AD 201 table from ASME VIII div ii the holding time is 2hr 15min plus 
but in _PQR time is 4hr 
so will you tell why 4 hr is given altough calculated time is 3 hr
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Karthik <karthik6684@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi,
as per aASME section-VIII-UCS56,if the welded joint nominal thicknessthickness more than 38mm shall be PWHT.
As per ASME Section-1,PW-39.Welded joint htickness more than 19mm shall be PWHT.Pls.Refer with the applicable code.


 
Karthikeyan.S
 
Getabec Energy Co.,Ltd.
379,Moo6,Soi8,Nikhomphatana,
Rayong-21180,
Thailand.
Phone: 0066 38 897035-8 (Off)
Fax: 0066 38 897034
Hand Phone: 0066 892512282


--- On Sat, 4/17/10, manpreet <manpreetsin88@rediffmail.com> wrote:

From: manpreet <manpreetsin88@rediffmail.com>
Subject: [MW:4838] requirements for PWHT
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 12:22 PM


Dear All

My case is that P1 group Gr.no.2 ,thickness-(16 to 200)
Welding process -SAW

Is it required to do PWHT & also the appropriate code &
standards if it is required.

Regards
Manpreet Singh
09867303228
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