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RE: [MW:22024] 316L -316L,304L-304L weld with ER309L

Any reference for this recommendation??? regards   Miroslav   Tadic Ingeniero  de Integridad CEE Producción - Mantenimiento YPFB Chaco S.A. De: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] En nombre de Kannayeram Gnanapandithan Enviado el: martes, 30 de septiembre de 2014 04:04 Para: materials-welding Asunto: Re: [MW:22021] 316L -316L,304L-304L weld with ER309L   first--no 2nd--ok THANKS & BEST REGARDS KG.PANDITHAN, AWS-CWI, CSWIP 3.1 CONSULTANT-WELDING & QUALITY   On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM, S.Mohammed < mohd52100@gmail.com > wrote: Dear all, We have two situation, 1. 316L to 316L weld with ER 309L Q1: is it acceptble? Any metallurgy issues? 2.304L to 304L weld with ER309L Q2: is it acceptbale? Any metallurgycal issues? Pl note that we dont have such wps. Regards Mohd. -- To post to this group, send email to ...

[MW:22024] RE: 22011] CS Pipe API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 P2 (PSL2) instead of API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 (PSL1)

Ask to your customer, if you explain that pipes your are offering are better maybe there is no problem, psl2 pipes have more rigorous quality control, among others in ChemiCal composition, in mechanical properties specially toughness. Sergio Antonio Muñoz IWE-IIW http://Weld-ING.blogspot.com -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To uns...

Re: [MW:22024] 316L -316L,304L-304L weld with ER309L

First is - not acceptable second - acceptable but unneecresr westage of mony find compostion of materila u will get answer automatically On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Kannayeram Gnanapandithan < kgpandithan@gmail.com > wrote: first--no 2nd--ok THANKS & BEST REGARDS KG.PANDITHAN, AWS-CWI, CSWIP 3.1 CONSULTANT-WELDING & QUALITY On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM, S.Mohammed < mohd52100@gmail.com > wrote: Dear all, We have two situation, 1. 316L to 316L weld with ER 309L Q1: is it acceptble? Any metallurgy issues? 2.304L to 304L weld with ER309L Q2: is it acceptbale? Any metallurgycal issues? Pl note that we dont have such wps. Regards Mohd. -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Materia...

Re: [MW:22023] Max. temp. attainable by CS tubes to avoid creep rupture

Hi everyone,though therotically Maximum Temperature limit of C.S is 425 degree celcius but you refer some practical standard of API it will allow use of c.s. above 425 degree celcius. any how its tube so obiviously threre will be less welding so the rate of carbide formation will be less. i dont think so it will be issue for 1 hour On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:15 PM, pgoswami < pgoswami@quickclic.net > wrote: Hi Jignesh and Dr Dilintas,   A short note on this scenario, from Utility Operators point of view. C.S will be pushed well above the upper limit and cause overheating of SA 106 GrB. Reason excessively higher temperature(well above design limits) plus dry(no flow condition).   It would advisable to switch to Cr-Mo steel for better design, and avoid premature failure. FEA is good for all other scenario, but Creep is totally unpredictable.   Thanks.   Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE Welding & Metallurgical Specialist Ontario, Canada ...

RE: [MW:22022] Max. temp. attainable by CS tubes to avoid creep rupture

Hi Jignesh and Dr Dilintas,   A short note on this scenario, from Utility Operators point of view. C.S will be pushed well above the upper limit and cause overheating of SA 106 GrB. Reason excessively higher temperature(well above design limits) plus dry(no flow condition).   It would advisable to switch to Cr-Mo steel for better design, and avoid premature failure. FEA is good for all other scenario, but Creep is totally unpredictable.   Thanks.   Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE Welding & Metallurgical Specialist Ontario, Canada pgoswami@quickclic.net pradip.goswami@gmail.com http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/pradip-goswami/5/985/299   From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:29 AM To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MW:22020] Max. temp. attainable by CS tub...

Re: [MW:22020] Max. temp. attainable by CS tubes to avoid creep rupture

BEGIN:VCARD X-LOTUS-CHARSET:UTF-8 VERSION:3.0 PRODID:-//Lotus Development Corporation//NONSGML Notes 8.5.2//EN_C FN:George H Dilintas/GRC/VERITAS N:Dilintas;George;;; ADR;TYPE=WORK;TYPE=PREF:PIRAEUS;;23\, Etolikoy Str.;PIRAEUS;;185 45 ;GREECE ADR;TYPE=HOME;TYPE=PREF:;;19-21 B. Laskou str.;Athens;Attika;11 633 ;Greece TEL;TYPE=HOME:+30-1-7667 197 TEL;TYPE=WORK:+30-210-40 63 113 TEL;TYPE=HOME;TYPE=FAX:+30 - 1 - 7667 197 TEL;TYPE=WORK;TYPE=FAX:+30-210-40 63 118 TEL;TYPE=CELL:+30 -69 44-64 62 04 EMAIL;TYPE=WORK;TYPE=PREF;TYPE=INTERNET : george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com ORG:Bureau Veritas;Industry REV:20131201T024559Z END:VCARD The max temp. for SA-106 GrB is 800 deg F (as indicated by ASME B31.1). Your temperature is close to this limit. However, creep is not only a function of time. It is a function also of the load (pressure or other). So I would suggest that you carry a static calculation and you compare the resulting stress with the allowable stress at 800 d...

Re: [MW:22021] 316L -316L,304L-304L weld with ER309L

first--no 2nd--ok THANKS & BEST REGARDS KG.PANDITHAN, AWS-CWI, CSWIP 3.1 CONSULTANT-WELDING & QUALITY On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM, S.Mohammed < mohd52100@gmail.com > wrote: Dear all, We have two situation, 1. 316L to 316L weld with ER 309L Q1: is it acceptble? Any metallurgy issues? 2.304L to 304L weld with ER309L Q2: is it acceptbale? Any metallurgycal issues? Pl note that we dont have such wps. Regards Mohd. -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm   The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/st...

[MW:22019] Max. temp. attainable by CS tubes to avoid creep rupture

Design Code : ASME Sec I, API 560 & API 530 Service: Non Corrosive. We have CS tubes in the convection section (BFW service) of furnace and we are planning to operate during the emergency shut down (plant black out) for short duration of about an hour at higher temperature then the design temp.  (425° C).  At this short duration of time the water tubes is going to see the no BFW flow condition (DRY). Query: What is the max. temperature attainable (intermittent - 01 hour) by CS tubes (to avoid creep rupture). How much the temperature above the design temperature (425° C) can the CS tube be pushed for this short operation of time (01 hour)? Regds/Jignesh -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787...

[MW:22018] 316L -316L,304L-304L weld with ER309L

Dear all, We have two situation, 1. 316L to 316L weld with ER 309L Q1: is it acceptble? Any metallurgy issues? 2.304L to 304L weld with ER309L Q2: is it acceptbale? Any metallurgycal issues? Pl note that we dont have such wps. Regards Mohd. -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm   The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r...

Re: [MW:22017] tube to tube sheet qualification.

Dear sir  Please note that carrying out tube to tubesheet mock up before actual welding On job is the intent of the code. This involves the actual welding variables and sequence to be followed on job. You should weld the mock up simulating actual job condition and sequence. I.e. Do exactly same on mock up what you want to do on job. For your query regarding combining two mock up qualifications.  Ask your AI or concerned tpi for its acceptance. In this case they may refuse you proposal of combining two PQRs because it is not simulating actual job conditions.  Anyway you talk with them and proceed. Best regards Jignesh Makwana Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Mahesh Mirje Date:26/09/2014 08:36 (GMT+05:30) To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MW:22000] tube to tube sheet qualification. Thanks hegde sir for valuable revert, Still have little bit query, I have two separate qualifications of mock up for same pattern,  but...

Re: [MW:22015] Welder qualification

Difficult to relay ,i dont think so welder need to know about chemical properties of metal On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Rems Okonkwo < rems.okonkwo@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Mohit,   F Number is an essential variable for welders qualification. If the F-No used in the CS does not cover that to be used for the Overlay as per QW-433 , then the welder is not qualified to perform such overlay. In any case, you will also need to consider the requirement of QW-381.3.   Dear Mahendra,   When a chemical composition is stipulated in the WPS, it simple implies that every weld performed must meet the stipulated chemical composition and chemical analysis of the production weld may be required by spot check. It is then a requirement that every welder must be qualified using that particular WPS and strickly following the weld parameters as stipulated in the WPS.   Regards,   Rems Okonkwo IWE Nigeria On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Mohit Aggarwal < aggarwalmohit05@...

FW: [MW:22014] Hardness relation with H2S environment

Vijay,   Failure in sour -service environment (i.e wet H2S environment) is always related to hardness . Please see the introduction in MR-0175. Many materials may have higher Y.S but lower hardness, say 300 series S.S. Contents of  MR-0175 is self explanatory.   Thanks    Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE Welding & Metallurgical Specialist Ontario, Canada pgoswami@quickclic.net pradip.goswami@gmail.com http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/pradip-goswami/5/985/299   Introduction The consequences of sudden failures of metallic oil and gas field components, associated with their exposure to H 2 S-containing production fluids, led to the preparation of the first edition of NACE MR0175, which was published in 1975 by the National Association of Corrosion Engineers, now known as NACE International. The original and subsequent editions of NACE MR0175 established limits of H 2 S partial pressure above which precautions ag...

[MW:22016] RE: 22011] CS Pipe API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 P2 (PSL2) instead of API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 (PSL1)

PSL 2 is a higher quality standard than PSL and few clients would object to received PSL 2 in lieu of PSL1. However you need to declare to your client what you are providing. The leaner chemistry of PSL 2 could give strength issues if anyone were to make pipe bends by induction bending from the material.   From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nirav Sanghavi Sent: 29 September 2014 12:02 To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Subject: [MW:22011] CS Pipe API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 P2 (PSL2) instead of API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 (PSL1)   Can we supply Carbon Steel Seamless Pipe API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 P2 (PSL2) instead of API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 (PSL1) Looking forward to your guidance. Thanks Nirav M:+971(0) 50 9156242 -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at h...

RE: [MW:22013] Hardness relation with H2S environment

Please refer to the following paper:   http://www.documentation.emersonprocess.com/groups/public/documents/reference/d351798x012_09.pdf   http://www.twi-global.com/technical-knowledge/job-knowledge/complying-with-nace-hardness-requirements-119/     Best regards   From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PUB:meisam shokri arfaei Sent: segunda-feira, 29 de setembro de 2014 05:34 To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MW:22012] Hardness relation with H2S environment   I think during hardness you could find exact values related to each area (base metal, weld metal, fusion line and HAZ refer to hardness sketch) but in other tests such as tensile you will find a summary of properties for those areas together (that is not good for root cause analysis or developing design or fit for purpose).  Also if any doubt remain after hardness, it is practical that you check values again or doing ...

[MW:22011] CS Pipe API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 P2 (PSL2) instead of API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 (PSL1)

Can we supply Carbon Steel Seamless Pipe API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 P2 (PSL2) instead of API5L / A106 GR.B/X42 (PSL1) Looking forward to your guidance. Thanks Nirav M:+971(0) 50 9156242 -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm   The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+uns...

Re: [MW:22012] Hardness relation with H2S environment

I think during hardness you could find exact values related to each area (base metal, weld metal, fusion line and HAZ refer to hardness sketch) but in other tests such as tensile you will find a summary of properties for those areas together (that is not good for root cause analysis or developing design or fit for purpose).  Also if any doubt remain after hardness, it is practical that you check values again or doing retest. Also check values in relationship with microstructure which are not practical after destructive tests. Regards   On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Vijay Katkar < katkar.vijay22@gmail.com > wrote: Hi All, Why NACE is restricting hardness value? Why Not other properties e.g Yield ... etc. What is the relations between hardness and cracking behaviour ? Kindly provide your valuable views on this. Best regards Vijay Katkar -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to...

[MW:22010] Hardness relation with H2S environment

Hi All, Why NACE is restricting hardness value? Why Not other properties e.g Yield ... etc. What is the relations between hardness and cracking behaviour ? Kindly provide your valuable views on this. Best regards Vijay Katkar -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm   The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it...

Re: [MW:22009] WELDING JOINT A335 P91

Dear Mr Hussain, What kind type III or IV Crack? Could you explain these crack types? On Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:04:55 PM UTC+7, engrshanas wrote: Dear experts, As per my expereince, we should use B9 instead of B3. During operation (One year) it will give type III or IV crack and we need to cut it out again. According to Babcock and Wilcox and Vallaourec & Mannesmann, it might give higher hardness and we may do not get the required micro structure as well.  Kind regards Muhammad Hussain Lead Metallurgist TCR Arabia Company Limited Dammam- Saudi Arabia  On Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:29 AM, Bala Nechur < bala....@ phoenixindustrial.ca > wrote: Hello Expert,   I recommend to use ER9S-B9 and E9018-B9 which will match the chemistry of A335 Gr P91 material.   Bala Nechur, Corporate QA/QC Manager Phoenix Industrial, Office: 780-428-3130  Ext 736 Cell: 780-204-0239 Fax: 1-866-211-3193 Toll Fr...