Monday, July 1, 2013

RE: [MW:18065] RE: 18041] metallurgy of weld joint PWHT

Mr Bagchi,
 
Thanks for your feedback. Such transformation would occur only when the  the "Lower Critical Temperature"  is  exceed in course of post weld heat treatment. Usually the rule of  thumb rule(say for C-Mn Steel )is :-
  • Lower Critical Temperature -723 Deg C
  
            
      
                       
 
 
       
 
  • Tempering Temperature
     --675-700 Deg C
                               
 
 
  • Stress Relieving Temperature
    -600-640 Deg C
 
There should not be major surprises, if these rules are followed.
 
Best Regards.
 
Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE
Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
Ontario, Canada
 
 


From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shomenath Bagchi
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 7:48 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:18063] RE: 18041] metallurgy of weld joint PWHT

Transformation to retained austenite is possible, but is a relatively rare case.



From: pgoswami <pgoswami@quickclic.net>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Cc: smv.monody@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: [MW:18056] RE: 18041] metallurgy of weld joint PWHT

Sandeep,
 
The issue is back to very basics of welding metallurgy. Please see the attached documents. The types of  PWHT are many, however stress relieving is by far the most common PWHT adopted in BPV, Piping fabrication or any weld repair .
 
What is stress relief and its' effects are nicely  described in these documents.
 
Stress relief does cause any metallurgical transformation. Metallurgical transformation during PWHT will add to stresses.
 
If the metallurgical transformations are  occurring during  so called stress relief then PWHT is totally out of control. 
 
Thanks.
 
Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE
Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
Ontario, Canada
 
 


From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramin Kondori
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:54 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:18054] RE: 18041] metallurgy of weld joint PWHT

Dear Sandeep:

Cooling after welding is quite fast and when temp drops below Martensite Finish (Mf), it retards the transformation of austenite to some extent. SR is very similar to tempering and will help transformation of Retained Austenite (RA) and improves dimensional stability and soft spot issues.

Of course this RA comes out in Alloys with more than 0.3% Carbon content but it may happen in low carbon grades too. Read the following article, you will get the idea.

Regards
Ramin Kondori
Sr. QA/QC Engineer
SINOPEC

r.kondori@petroyada.com
+98-2123592322
+98-9132150320



On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, sandeep monody <smv.monody@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ramon Kondori Sir.


Earlier I was believing  the same what you wrote in the reply.

Regarding the 3rd point u mentioned needs more clarification.,because no microstructure changes during pwht as pwht temperature is below the lower critical temperature of the metal but brittleness/hardness changes.

Please clarify your 3rd point

Sandeep.M.V

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