Skip to main content

Re: [MW:18265] Cooling rate for 310S material after PWHT

Cooling rate in 9 to 5 temp for austenetic is very critical


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Ramin Kondori <raminkondori@gmail.com> wrote:
Reputable heat treatment companies will give you the best solution.

But Just if you failed to find a reliable reference, try Simulation heat treatment with different cooling rates on two or three coupons of your 310 material.
Then test them (mechanical tests or metallographic evaluation or whatever test is required for your PQR).
Record the results and put them on a curve.
Vertical axis for the results and horizontal axis for cooling rates.
By interpolation (or extrapolation) you can draw a curve which relates cooling rate to results of each type of test.

Let's say you have done an impact test.
Draw the curve by interpolation or extrapolation
Min acceptable result is 27 J
Draw a horizontal line passing from 27 on vertical axis
wherever the horizontal line meets the curve, draw a vertical line and you will find the minimum cooling rate.

apply a safety factor on it and you will have your minimum cooling rate.
for example if it was 100C/min you should go for minimum 110C/min

Of course this is costly and time consuming but gives you a solid base for your decision and if things went wrong, you can defend your decision. Before you do this, officially discuss this with your client and agree on the method.

Regards
Ramin Kondori
Sr. QA/QC Engineer
SINOPEC

r.kondori@petroyada.com
+98-2123592322
+98-9132150320



On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Marc Vleminckx <vleminckx.m@gmail.com> wrote:
We are building a 310S vessel, 22mm thick, that needs solution annealing. Within our organisation there are some questions about the cooling rate this vessel needs.
ASME II SA-480 only say's the material needs to be quenched in water or rapidly cooled by other means. 
Somebody mentioned the temperature should drop from 1040°C to 427°C within 15 minutes to guarantee material requirements. Because of the design of the vessel and possible difficulty to maintain an equal cooling rate along the surface the choice was made to cool with forced air. To some of us a 600°C temp. drop with forced air in 15min is nearly impossible with forced air. So the main questions are "What is the definition of rapidly?", "Are there other means to reach this cooling rate?" and "Is there somebody who can provide this service within Holland or maybe Germany?". Heating rate is between 150 and 200°C/h starting from 482°C, and holding time 1h at 1040°C.

--
To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm
 
The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents.
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

--
To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm
 
The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents.
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

--
To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/MaterialsWelding-122787?home=&gid=122787&trk=anet_ug_hm
 
The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents.
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

Comments

Popular posts from this blog

Materails FAQs

Q: What are equivalents for standard Q 235 B (and Q 235 A) for U-channels? (asked by: boris.vielhaber@vait.com) A: DIN Nr. = 2393 T.2, 2394 T.2, EN 10025 W. Nr. DIN 17007 = 1.0038 Design DIN 17006 = RSt 37-2, S235JRG2 (Fe 360 B) Q: What is St DIN 2391 BK material? (asked by: dmcandrews@automaticstamp.com) A: Precision steel tubes, cold-finished/hard. Q: What is C.D.W. Boiler Tube? (asked by: montydude123@yahoo.com) A: Cold Drawn Welded Boiler Tube. Q: WHAT IS W.Nr. 1.4301? PLS TELL US IN EASY LANGUAGUE (asked...

Heat tint (temper) colours on stainless steel surfaces heated in air // Heat tint

Introduction The colour formed when stainless steel is heated, either in a furnace application or in the heat affected zone of welds, is dependent on several factors that are related to the oxidation resistance of the steel. The heat tint or temper colour formed is caused by the progressive thickening of the surface oxide layer and so, as temperature is increased, the colours change.   Oxidation resistance of stainless steels However, there are several factors that affect the degree of colour change and so there is no a single table of colour and temperature that represents all cases. The colours formed can only be used as an indication of the temperature to which the steel has been heated. Factors affecting the heat tint colours formed Steel composition The chromium content is the most important single factor affecting oxidation resistance. The higher the chromium, the more heat resistant the steel and so the development of the heat tint colou...

Re: [MW:10788] ON PLOT PIPING & OFF PLOT PIPING

Piping systems involved for the flow lines and gathering lines from the well head isolation valve to the production facility or processing plant isolation valve are determined as OFF PLOT. ON PLOT defines piping system in the processing plant and production platform. ANSI/ASME B31.4 applies for off plot piping system. B31.4 allows the use of either API 1104 or ASME section IX (as appropriate). However, occasionally, a very small system such as piping within 500 feet of a processing plant (some client also said 400 feet) may be declared B31.3 rather than B31.4. When B31.3 is invoked, only ASME Section IX is used. before you decide which code to use for welding procedure and/or welder qualification for pipe welding, you have to know the design and construction code applicable to the system. Please read far enough into scope and diagram illustrating the application of either B31.3 and B31.4 hope this helps rgds 2011/4/21 pradip kumar sil < pradipsil@gmail.com > Dear all, ...