Re: FW: [MW:17226] Welding Train Rail to CS base Plate

Mr.Ahmed Osman ,

Please refer your contract documents/Project specifications for, which code has to be followed for PQR. There will be national and international codes for the same.

Also, sorry, i am not an experienced person in this topic. What i meant to say is, if we are talking with more data's, as what have done and experienced, more experts will join the discussion and will give their valuable inputs.

Thanking You,

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Hareesh K V
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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Ahmed Osman <A.osman81@yahoo.ca> wrote:

MR. Hareesh K V

From ESAB Handbook

1^st I do not use it as a joint for permanent work

2^nd I u do some search u will find the rails is just 2 categories ( chromium , manganese molybdenum )

3^rd I mentioned that it is Turkish rails  "means it is manganese molybdenum "

4^th thanks for help of MR JS

Sometimes u must use your knowledge background for solving minors  and not complicate it

Which code will be used for PQR of this issue ????

 

Thanks for your attention

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tarek Yehia
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:24 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:17224] Welding Train Rail to CS base Plate

 

Dear HAREESH K V,

 

Excellent QC behavior and approach, i appreciated.

 

Regards,

Tarek Yehia

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM, HAREESH K V <hareesh13h@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Ahmed Osman,

 

Surprise.... you don't know the material and you advised to use E9018-D1.!!!!!!!!

 

Please do not do such things. Be clear about the material, electrodes and process to be used before attempting to do any welding( Please do welding procedure qualifications before welding). Let not there be any disasters because of this type of actions.... 

 

Dear all, as per my opinion, we should not comment on using electrode, temp etc.......as the material is not known and he already done an experiment. By luck..... the crack appeared...if not...... Let him find any stenciling/punch/description or any thing that have proper tracability to the actual material used.

 

Mr. Ahmed Osman, there are many specialists in this group who can support you. Please come with the proper material, they will support you to have a trouble free welding process. 

 

 

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Hareesh K V
+91-9447625012

 

 

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM, <jsrisud@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ahmed,

If you can't test the rail material for composition, atleast test with magnet.

Mostly, rails are made of Hadfield manganese steels which are non-magnetic.

If so, weld with AWS E 307 - 16 without any pre-heat on the rail part.

This is the best recommended solution for joining Hadfield steel to Carbon steel.

JS

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Subject: RE: [MW:17218] Welding Train Rail to CS base Plate

 

you should give the standard type written on the rail parts and search about that type material to know the electrode required.


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From: A.osman81@yahoo.ca
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:17213] Welding Train Rail to CS base Plate
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:07:19 +0300

Dears

I face a problem in my site … I have a rail do not know its material … we need to weld this rail to CS base plate (fillet weld) .. I told them to use E9018-D1 but it was not available they use 7018-1 but joints is cracked … please confirm me the electrode to use

** the rail is from Turkish railways rails

Ahmed

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