Tuesday, May 26, 2015

Re: [MW:23036] WPS with groove welding will also qualify Fillet welding.

as per ASME, without PQR ref , WPS is invalid unless it is SWPS

as code of Sec9, groove weld will qualify Fillet weld also

THANKS & BEST REGARDS
KG.PANDITHAN, AWS-CWI, CSWIP 3.1
CONSULTANT-WELDING & QUALITY

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:42 AM, 'alireza samimi' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear

With WPS for groove you cannot do anything for fillet

But if you have PQR on Groove then you can prepare WPS for fillet according ASME or ISO 15614-1

 

Best Regards,

Alireza Samimi Mottaghi

International welding engineer-Senior Welding inspector-Lecturer of IWE

+61-411509219

Australia-Newcastle

 

 

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.Sathiya Narayanan
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:05 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:23030] WPS with groove welding will also qualify Fillet welding.

 

Dear

 

WPS is restricted to what for it is written, some of the WPS written for fillet, Groove,  fillet + Groove 

 

These are based on Limitation by Qualified PQR 

 

For your query

 

what is the reference code for PQR qualification , with that code if the PQR limitations allow to use for both just rewriting the WPS  as per your requirement with PQR limitation will serve you

 

 

Regards

M.Sathiyanarayanan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:42 AM, meisam shokri arfaei <meisamshokri@gmail.com> wrote:

I Think that the question was about welding and not about qualification.

 

Whenever a WPS (whether Standard, pre-qualified or qualified) prepared, the manufacturer allow to use it only with values or in the range which mentioned in that WPS.

 

The qualification has a different story. One or more WPS's may qualified with single PQR (or number of PQR's which are less than the number of WPS's and in some cases one PQR for each WPS) under the criteria and qualification rules of the design and/or qualification code. 

 

So, in summary, if you have a WPS for welding a groove weld, you allowed to use it just for that. For a fillet weld you should prepare a new WPS. however both may qualified with a single WPS.

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:41 AM, anosh wankhade <anosh_wankhade@rediffmail.com> wrote:


Agreed with Dr. Georgious,

 

This is listed as non essential Variable in ASME section IX.

Please refer QW : 4.2.30 

Regards,

 

Anosh Wankhade

From: george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com
Sent: Thu, 21 May 2015 16:54:53
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:23005] WPS with groove welding will also qualify Fillet welding.

 

When ASME is the Code, yes
This is not the case for EN 15614-1

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Mohammed Ghani ---21/05/2015 13:13:43---Dear Experts, Can any one suggest if Groove welding WPS will also allow welding with

From: Mohammed Ghani <ghani386@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: 21/05/2015 13:13
Subject: [MW:23002] WPS with groove welding will also qualify Fillet welding.
Sent by: materials-welding@googlegroups.com





Dear Experts, 

Can any one suggest if Groove welding WPS will also allow welding with fillet. please guide with reference standard clause.

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Mohammed Ghani,


CSWIP 3.1 / BGAS L-2 / ISO 9001:2008 QMS LA.

Mechanical Inspector,
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