Re: [MW:26952] RE: Heater coil welding getting Crack - Reg

Normally cracking in Austenitic stainless steels may be Solidification cracking. Solidification cracking occurs because of below reasons.

1. Presence of Impurities like Sulphur, Lead, Arsenic etc..

2. Weld Bead i.e Width to Depth Ratio

3. Time duration between Liquidus and Solidus curve during cooling.

But I do not think the cracking being discussed is Solidification cracking as this type of cracks occurs in crater with Branches.

I feel this cracking at start and End  is due to Welder or Technique. Sudden removal of Filler creates shrinkage stresses which results in cracking and I suppose it is due to shrinkage stresses and restraint.

Nowadays GTAW welding machines have Facility with PreFlow and Post flow of Shielding Gas which could be of one option and second option is to use correct Bead size while starting and finishing not necessarily a Key Hole Technique to be followed.

Thanks & Regards

J.Gerald Jayakumar

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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 12:29:43 AM GMT+4, PGoswami <pgoswami@quickclic.net> wrote:

Hi Amul,

 

These cracks are  Centreline or Hot Cracks .I've attached a picture of the same from the book. The contributing factors could be :-

 

1.       Technique wise—

·         Too fast or Jerky removal of the filler metal from the weld puddle, gradual or slow removal of the filler from the weld puddle  may help sometimes.

 

2.       Filler metallurgy wise:

·         check what's the ferrite no for the weld deposit. Typically for 347 H one would require 6 TO 8FN or more in the deposit to avoid cracks.

·         Check what's the Nb:C ratio. It should be 8 Max. Higher values(i.e. more Nb in the weld) could contribute to cracking.

 

3.       Filler Batch/ Box Specific:

·         Try welding with filler from another  box or batch no, see if it helps

 

I'll look forward to your response.

 

Thanks.

 

 

P.Goswami.P.Eng, IWE.

Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

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Email:pgoswami@quickclic.net,pradip.goswami@gmail.com

 

 

 

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Fig.3. Buried centreline cracking

 

 

From: Amul Raj [mailto:win.amul@gmail.com]
Sent: October 31, 2017 8:35 AM
To: Pgoswami@quickclic.net; pradip.goswami@gmail.com
Subject: Heater coil welding getting Crack - Reg

 

Dear Sir, Good evening.....! 

 

In our project hydro cracker unit, Heater radial coil welding base material 347H and filler material ER347H(Metrode), size 4" X 13.49 Thick 

 

When we do the welding, getting Crack in the weld start and stop point 

 

Please advise me sir

 

Thanks and Warm Regards 

 

Amul Raj T  

PSCJV 

+965-66310230

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