Materials & Welding: January 2011

Monday, January 31, 2011

RE: [MW:9609] heat input calculation in welding

From an ASME Section IX Code stand point the below statements are not correct.

On should read the Section IX, QW-409.1, interpretations (there are quite a few). In particular one should Interpretation IX-81-91. However, I will transcribe portions of several interpretations that are interesting:

IX-81-19

Q4 – “If QW-409.1 does not require that average heat input be determined” {previous question – reply No} “how is heat input established for multiple pass procedure qualification? Must it be established for each pass?

R4 – QW-409.1 requires requalification when an increase in heat input occurs over that qualified. Maximum heat input is established during procedure qualification by determination of the maximum amperage and voltage in combination with the least travel speed or, alternatively, the maxi mum volume of weld metal deposited per unit length of weld. Heat input is not required to be determined for each pass.

IX-04-12

Q1 – Does QW-409.1 require the highest heat input, to be recorded on the PQR, be calculated on the parameter used at the location where the HAZ impact specimens are removed.

R1 – No.

Although, I will admit I record amperage, voltage, and travel speed for each pass when performing PQR welding whether impact testing is required or not; i.e. whether QW-409.1 is an essential variable or not applicable.

John

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo J Acelajado
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 2:16 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [MW:9541] heat input calculation in welding

January 28, 2011

Hello!

You need to show the individual Heat input of each pass and also indicate the sum or total Heat input.

Thanks & best regards.

PJA

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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:55 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:9538] heat input calculation in welding

Dear Sandeep,

As stated by you that "every pass has its effect on base metal", Your PQR shall include heat input for each pass and WPS to be written with Heat Input for each pass, as per QW-409.1, any increase in heat input for each pass will require requalification.

Heat input shall be calculated with QW-409.1 (a) and (b), if with any of these methods Heat Input is increased, you need to requalify the WPS, that's why max. heat input value is written for WPS.

Regards
Manpreet Singh

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:55:51 +0530 sandy wrote
>Hi everybody
>
>I have one query regarding the heat input.
>If I am welding a joint with multipass, then I have diffrent heat
>input for every pass depening on the parameters. now I want to know
>which heat input shall be taken into consideration for the effect of
>heat input on base metal, cauz every pass has its effect on base metal
>and after every pass due to the previous heat input I am giving extra
>heat in the base metal.
>So I want to know should I take individual heat input or sum of all
>heat input for getting the exact effect of Heat input on base metal.
>
>Regards
>Sandeep Kumar
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Re: [MW:9613] Expiry period for SMAW consumable-reg

Hi,

There is no code specify the shelf life of electrode, its depends on
the manufacturer recommendation.

I had also faced the problem with Lincoln electrodes certificates, as
they mention in the lot certificates in 1 year. So raised the quarry
in Lincoln Company about the shelf life of electrode; accordingly they
send the warranty/validity certificate (Here I attached the attached
warranty/validity certificates & lot certificates -for your
information)

So when ever you face the shelf life problem with electrode kindly
contact the manufacturer and get the validity confirmation from the
company. its the only record or proof of electrode shelf life and
solution.

Rgs,
Sambath Kumar

On 1/31/11, Ilangkumaran Kumarasamy <ilangkumaran.kumarasamy@borouge.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr Pradip,
>
> Yes your statement is perfectly correct.
>
> Thank you,
> Ilangkumaran
>
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> To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MW:9589] Expiry period for SMAW consumable-reg
>
> Hi
>
> Pl. browse the reply already given in earlier thread - MW:4205 :
>
> It's true that boiler or pressure vessel codes or structural welding codes
> do not specify the shelf-life or expiry dates of welding electrodes.
> For example, ASME Nuclear Codes Sec-III, Clause & NB, NC-2440 specifies
> that:- Suitable storage and handling of electrodes, flux, and other welding
> materials shall be maintained. Precautions shall be taken to minimize
> absorption of moisture by fluxes and cored, fabricated, and coated
> electrodes.
>
> The shelf-life of welding electrodes to a great extent depends on electrode
> manufacturer's methods, quality control procedure and how electrodes are
> handled. Depending on the coating type, packing (hermetically sealed or
> not), storing methods and ambient conditions, humidity etc, electrodes may
> last long or less. However as a good practice and based on electrode
> manufacturer's guidelines it may be worth considering:-
>
> * Solid Wires, GTAW/GMAW-No shelf Life.
>
> * Cored Wire -FCAW- No shelf life
>
> * SMAW - The rule should be FIFO (First in First Out). Electrodes where the
> coating shows sign of flaking, cracks etc certainly should be discarded
> without much thoughts. Electrodes not older than 2-3 years but in good
> condition may be used. If required the diffusible hydrogen test could be
> repeated. Electrodes older than 3 years generally should not be used as a
> good engineering rule.
>
> * SAW Fluxes- Shelf life 2-3 years maximum subject to the flux condition and
> amount of fine particles/dust generated and behavior during welding.
> Thanks.
> Pradip Goswami, P.Eng
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Prem Nautiyal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:48:41 +0530 wrote
>>Dear Experts,
>
> generally what is expiry period for SMAw consumables (Flux coated) dose ASME
> Sec II-C refers regarding this, if so please refer which class.in the
> consumable wraper only manufactured date is given but not the expiry date.
>
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
>
>
> K.Pandiarajan.
>
>
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Re: [MW:9614] Electrode/Filler wire for Grade 4Q casting

Dear Mr.Siva,

It is a low alloy steel.

You can use Cromotherme1 of D&H.

Regards,

C.Muniyandi

Coimbatore

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Innovative Engineering Products <iepsrp@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Please let me know the welding electrode/ filler wire to be used on grade 4Q casting.

With regards,
Sivaraman.P
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Re: [MW:9615] Cr. % Variation after Heat Treatment.

Dear Israr,

PMI is technique for fast identification of materials. When it is used for accurate measurements of chemical composition, problems arise. If you observe the standard deviation beside the reading, you may understand the reason for this variation. In XRF, the reading is given by the electron signal generated by the incident X-rays, so during X-ray irradiation the number of electrons removed may vary for each reading taken; the detector noise may also affect the reading. As a precaution, please use the PMI at max. temp of 40°C beyond which detector has more noise signal.

2011/1/31 israr ahmed <ahmedisrar.nm@gmail.com>

Dear All,

I had Witnessed a PMI test on Material 34CrNiMo6 The Cr. % obtain 1.3 to 1.4, After Machining the Rod and Heat treatment and temparing the same material is tested fore PMI and found Cr.0.98 to 1.2 Percent.The Cr. % become less by 0.1 to 0.2 %. Can any body tell what may be the reason.

Regards
Israr Ahmed Noor Mohammed
+919930308261

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regards,

Harish.

[MW:9608] REGARDING PQR

Dear Sir,
I would like to know that base on previous projects qualified PQR says that Argon Gas purity 99.90% but requirement is 99.996%.Main things is gas is essential variable So I want to use this PQR.During preparation wps, can i purpose argon purity is 99.996%

Pl suggestion me

Regards
Bijaya

[MW:9607] Electrode/Filler wire for Grade 4Q casting

Dear all,

Please let me know the welding electrode/ filler wire to be used on grade 4Q casting.

With regards,
Sivaraman.P

[MW:9605] Re: How to select equivalent grade material? A36 equivalent??

Hi
At the first,it is important that the mechanical properties of chosen
material be the same,
the yield point and the tensile point of A36 is the same for all
thicknesses, But there is a little difference about the material
(Specially sheet metal) that is categorized by EN 10025 like s235
becuase the yield point of the s235 that is similar to A36 (almost)
is going down when the thickness is going up but the issue that is
very important is the Design assumptions.
I can send you the summarized properties of the materials if you want
but the final decision must be taken by the designer and accorting to
design assumption.

regards
M.R

On Jan 31, 4:52 pm, Srinivas Engr <srinivas.gmsr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All.
> pl guide be about in selction of equivalent grade material?
> Wat we have to look?
> & In which spec we have to refer?
> Wat r A36 equivalent materials..?
> Wat about S275 grade material?
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Srinivas

Re: [MW:9605] ASME manual

please visit below link

http://www.aircoolertechnology.com/QC%20system%20manual.pdf

this is sample only ,

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Santosh Gaikwad
Material Testing & Inspection Services(MTIS),
Surat,India.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Purvin Bhatt <vareniumengentrprise@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for keeping me update on it, but it is ISO manual not ASME U stamp manual.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Jatin <vareniumengentrprise@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am willing to read U stamp manual & very keen to read how this
system works. Any body can help me

Best regards

Jatin

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[MW:9604] How to select equivalent grade material? A36 equivalent??

Dear All.
pl guide be about in selction of equivalent grade material?
Wat we have to look?
& In which spec we have to refer?
Wat r A36 equivalent materials..?
Wat about S275 grade material?

Thanks & Regards
Srinivas

Re: [MW:9603] ASME manual

Thanks for keeping me update on it, but it is ISO manual not ASME U stamp manual.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Jatin <vareniumengentrprise@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am willing to read U stamp manual & very keen to read how this
system works. Any body can help me

Best regards

Jatin

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Re: Re: [MW:9602] Hoe to select Flange's rating and class

Hi,

Can you please give notes that to how to read from where . Say if I
want to select on 12" A 106 Gr B pipe for sour service . how to select
the rating of flange from this chart . can you please explain?

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:59:46 +0530 wrote
>Dear Saamy,

1- Flange material shall be selected based on service conditions (fluid
properties such as corrosiveness, temperature, hydrogen contents,...).
2- Based on design pressure, design temperature and material of
construction the flange rating shall be selected according to
pressure/temperature rating tables of ASME b16.5.
Based on my long experience on this matter I found that working with
pressure/temperature rating tables of ASME b16.5 is not so easy and
accurate. So I converted these tables to the graphs which is in
attached as a pdf file for your convenience.

Hope it will be useful for you.

Regards,
Karandish

>

From: muthu barathi
>To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 1:32:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [MW:9592] Hoe to select Flange's rating and class
>
>Hi,
>You have to refer your LDT (Line designation table) and P & ID
(Process
>instrument diagram).
>
>
>
>On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:49:05 +0530 wrote
>>Dear All!
>
>Could you explain me how to select flange ratings and class against
>
>service, temp, and pressure?
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
>Saamy
>
>
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>Dear Sir,
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanking You,
>
>Honesty is the best Policy
>
>With Warm Regards,
>
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Dear Sir,

Thanking You,

Honesty is the best Policy

With Warm Regards,

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Re: [MW:9601] P1 no Range

Dear Puneet,

IS 2062 Gr A, is unlisted , but max. properties were equalent to P1. but while preparing WPS/PQR use Material Spec as IS 2062 GrA .

SS 410 is Martensitic Steels, its P No is 6

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:04 PM, puneet takiar <puneet1takiar@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello!

Can anybody tell me in which P. no IS 2062 grade A and SS 410 will fall and how to search in ASME sex IX table.

Regards,

puneet takiar

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Sent: Fri, 7 January, 2011 1:46:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:0] P1 no Range

Hi,
Please refer QW423 also QW 350 for essential variables.

Thanks & Regards,

(Karthik)

Karthikeyan.S

QA/QC Manager

Getabec Energy Co.,Ltd.

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Rayong-21180,

Thailand.

Phone: 0066 38 897035-8 (Off)

Fax: 0066 38 897034

Hand Phone: 0066 892512282

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From: sn vl <weldinspn@gmail.com>
Subject: [MW:9122] P1 no Range
To: "Materials & Welding" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 2:43 PM

Hi..

How to find in ASME sec IX P no to Pno qualification range.
Eg : If a welder qualified for P1to P1
what is the Range qualified As per Sec IX.
Where is given in CODE.

Regards
SN.

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Re: [MW:9600] Flattening Test for SA 106

Dear Bathula,

Thanks for the Quick Response.

I would still look forward where the defination of "Under" and "Above" is clearly defined in ASME/ASTM Standards.

Regards

VPV

____________________________________________________________________

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING) <R.Bathula@ticb.com> wrote:

Excludes 2"

Refer para 11.1 "For pipe NPS 2 and under a sufficient length of pipe shall stand being bent cold through 90°………….."

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vino Varghese
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:24 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:9597] Flattening Test for SA 106

Dear Experts,

Refer to Section 12.0(Flattening Test) of SA 106, ASME Sec II Part A.

This Section states that - " For Pipe over NPS 2 a section of pipe not less than........"

Question: Does the above Interpretation includes 2" or excludes 2" for the Flattening Test?

Do provide the reference of ASME/ASTM which supports the Interpretation.

The MTC recieved does not reflect the Flattening Test.( Material - 2", Sch 80, SA 106 Gr.B for Sour Service)

Hope to see as usual co-operation from everyone in Material Group.

Thanks & Regards

Vino P Varghese

Doha-Qatar

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Re: [MW:9599] Hoe to select Flange's rating and class

Dear Saamy,

1- Flange material shall be selected based on service conditions (fluid properties such as corrosiveness, temperature, hydrogen contents,...).

2- Based on design pressure, design temperature and material of construction the flange rating shall be selected according to pressure/temperature rating tables of ASME b16.5.

Based on my long experience on this matter I found that working with pressure/temperature rating tables of ASME b16.5 is not so easy and accurate. So I converted these tables to the graphs which is in attached as a pdf file for your convenience.

Hope it will be useful for you.

Regards,

Karandish

From: muthu barathi <muthu_barathi@rediffmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 1:32:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:9592] Hoe to select Flange's rating and class

Hi,
You have to refer your LDT (Line designation table) and P & ID (Process
instrument diagram).

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:49:05 +0530 wrote
>Dear All!

Could you explain me how to select flange ratings and class against

service, temp, and pressure?

Thanks!

Saamy

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Dear Sir,

Thanking You,

Honesty is the best Policy

With Warm Regards,

Muthu Barathi P
Mobile No:00962788269821 (Jordan)
00962775401951

RE: [MW:9598] Flattening Test for SA 106

Excludes 2”

Refer para 11.1 “For pipe NPS 2 and under a sufficient length of pipe shall stand being bent cold through 90°…………..”

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vino Varghese
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:24 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:9597] Flattening Test for SA 106

Dear Experts,

Refer to Section 12.0(Flattening Test) of SA 106, ASME Sec II Part A.

This Section states that - " For Pipe over NPS 2 a section of pipe not less than........"

Question: Does the above Interpretation includes 2" or excludes 2" for the Flattening Test?

Do provide the reference of ASME/ASTM which supports the Interpretation.

The MTC recieved does not reflect the Flattening Test.( Material - 2", Sch 80, SA 106 Gr.B for Sour Service)

Hope to see as usual co-operation from everyone in Material Group.

Thanks & Regards

Vino P Varghese

Doha-Qatar

[MW:9597] Flattening Test for SA 106

Dear Experts,

Refer to Section 12.0(Flattening Test) of SA 106, ASME Sec II Part A.

This Section states that - " For Pipe over NPS 2 a section of pipe not less than........"

Question: Does the above Interpretation includes 2" or excludes 2" for the Flattening Test?

Do provide the reference of ASME/ASTM which supports the Interpretation.

The MTC recieved does not reflect the Flattening Test.( Material - 2", Sch 80, SA 106 Gr.B for Sour Service)

Hope to see as usual co-operation from everyone in Material Group.

Thanks & Regards

Vino P Varghese

Doha-Qatar

Re: [MW:9596] ASME manual

Dear jatin,

Please got to the Fabtech International oficial website you can read their ASME manual

Regards

RInshu

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Jatin <vareniumengentrprise@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am willing to read U stamp manual & very keen to read how this
system works. Any body can help me

Best regards

Jatin

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Re: [MW:9594] Cr. % Variation after Heat Treatment.

Hi,

IT MAY BE DUE TO Cr MAY NOT HOMOGENEOUSLY mixed or while you tested
that spot might be different than this spot some variation or first
reading may not correct or this reading. You may recalibrate the PMI
machine. Or you may go for other machine and also go for chemical
analysis.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:09:32 +0530 wrote
>Dear All,

I had Witnessed a PMI test on Material 34CrNiMo6 The Cr. % obtain 1.3
to 1.4, After Machining the Rod and Heat treatment and temparing the
same material is tested fore PMI and found Cr.0.98 to 1.2 Percent.The
Cr. % become less by 0.1 to 0.2 %. Can any body tell what may be the
reason.

Regards
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Dear Sir,

Thanking You,

Honesty is the best Policy

With Warm Regards,

Muthu Barathi P
Mobile No:00962788269821 (Jordan)
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[MW:9593] Re: Hoe to select Flange's rating and class

Refer ASME 16.5,
Based on material, select material group & pressure temperature rating
table. Rating & class can be determined based on design temperatre &
pressure.

On Jan 31, 10:11 am, Saamy <krishnasamy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All!
> Could you explain me how to select flange ratings and class against
> service, temp, and pressure?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Saamy

Re: RE: [MW:9591] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65

Hi,
Thank you I selected SMAW - ESAB E8018-G and for SAW OK Autorod 13.24 -
F8A10-EG-G

Thank you.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:03:03 +0530 wrote
>

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Hi
You can use E 8018 for SMAW for API 5L X65. From ESAB it is available.
Regards
Rajappan

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [materials-
welding@googlegroups.com] on behalf of muthu barathi
[muthu_barathi@rediffmail.com]

Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:33 AM

To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [MW:9556] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding
consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65

Hi,

Mr.Siegbert thank you for your reply but I want to use SMAW and SAW

process as I have welders qualified in SMAW and SAW welders also I do

not have FCAW machines.

Thanking You.

With Regards,

Muthu Barathi P

On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:53:51 +0530 wrote

>Dear Mr. Muthu,

It seems you need a usual welding material like E71T-1M/E71T-1

Siegbert

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

[mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Raghuram

Bathula

Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2011 14:14

An: Materials & Welding

Betreff: [MW:9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW

and

SMAW for API 5L X65

Be explicit about your question

Open-ended questions tend to be perceived as open-ended time sinks.

Those people most likely to be able to give you a useful answer are

also the busiest people.

You are more likely to get a useful response if you are explicit about

what you want respondents to do (provide pointers, send info,

whatever). This will focus their effort and implicitly put an upper

bound on the time and energy a respondent must allocate to helping

you. This is good.

To understand the world the experts live in, think of expertise as an

abundant resource and time to respond as a scarce one. The less of a

time commitment you implicitly ask for, the more likely you are to get

an answer from someone really good and really busy.

On Jan 29, 12:32 pm, "muthu barathi"

wrote:

> Dear Sir

>

> Actually this material is for Piling work. We are constructing a new

> jetty . Steel Pile material is API - 5 L PSL - 2 / Grade X-65 . Pile

> size OD - 1219mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm and also other size OD

-

> 914mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm.

>

> Now I want make a WPS by carrying out PQR . So I am searching based

on

> the sample pipe's MTC. The reading I have given is replica of MTC and

> the is certified by Lloyds Surveyor too.

>

> Now please tell me the correct welding electrode for SMAW and wire

and

> flux for SAW process. As per API 5L PSL 2 / Grade 65. the requirement

-

>

> X 65 - YS - 448 MPa. TS - 531 MPa. EL% - 23 - Impact at 0 deg.C

> 27 Joules. C - 0.22 Mn - 1.45 P- 0.025

> S- 0.015 Ti - 0.06

>

> Approved brands electrodes - ESAB and OERLIKON from these consumables

> shall be selected.

>

> While testing PQR it should not fail.

>

> Expecting your mail shortly.

>

> Thanking You.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Muthu Barathi P

>

> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:28:26 +0530 wrote

>

>

> Mr. Muthu,

>

> What's the applicable specification for this material,

> ASTM/ASME/EN or any proprietary grade for any client or any vendor's

> specification.The elongation and impact properties asked are highly

> un-realistic. You never get a Carbon or Low Alloy steel with 46%

> elongation

> requirement, also, impact requirement is extremely high.

>

> I would say, if you have any design paper work, which

> indicates the grade or heat treatment of this steel the correct AWS

> type of

> welding consumables, SAW wire+flux specification etc could be worked

> out.

> Otherwise YOU SHOULD NEVER CHOOSE WELDING CONSUMABLES BASED ON THE

> CHEMICAL

> COMPOSITION ALONE.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE

> Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

> & Consultant

> Ontario, Canada.

> Email-pgosw...@sympatico.ca,

> pgosw...@quickclic.net

>

>

>

> From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

> [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo J

> Acelajado>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:08 AM

> >To:

>

> materials-welding@googlegroups.com>Subject: RE: [MW:9529] Requirement

>

> of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW

>

>

>

> January 27,

> 2011

>

> Hello there!

>

> This material is very strong one. I think

> the welding consumable suppliers can best answer this question.

>

> My understanding is that the percentage

> elongationis not required for the weld.

> Thank you.

>

> Best regards.

> PJA

>

> From:

> materials-welding@googlegroups.com

> [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathalingam

> Babu>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:10

> PM

> >To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

> >Subject: Re: [MW:9526] Requirement of

>

> suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW

>

> Hi

>

> The elongation requirement is very stringent, it is very

> difficult to meet 46%, you have consult with the specific consumable

> suppliers

> to get 46%

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> K. Babu

>

> >----- Original Message -----

>

> From: muthu barathi

>

> To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

>

> Sent: Thursday,

> January 27, 2011 4:36 PM

>

> Subject: [MW:9523]

> Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW and

> SMAW

>

> Hi Friends,

>

> >Let me get your expertise of

>

> selection of welding consumables in this>regard.

>

> >The base material

>

> Chemical properties as given under (%):

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >C - 0.066

> >Si - 0.26

> >Mn -

> 1.55

> >P - 0.014

> >S - 0.004

> >Al - 0.046

> >Cr - 0.186

> >Ni - 0.015

> >Mo

> - 0.002

> >Cu - 0.020

> >V - 0.057

> >Nb - 0.065

> >Ti - 0.020

> >N -

> 0.007

> >B - 0.00025

> >Ca - 0.0025

> >CE - 0.371

>

> >MECHANICAL

> PROPERTIES

> >YIELD STRENGTH - 516 MPa

> >TENSILE STRENGTH - 625

> MPa.

> >ELONG % - 46

> >IMOPACT

>

> - (-) 10 DEGREE C - 250 JOULES

>

> >NOW PLEASE TELL ME, WHICH

>

> ELECTRODE FOR SMAW (BRAMDS ESAB, OERLIKON)>AND SAW - FLUX AND WIRE

WILL

>

> SUIT AND PASS PQR TEST FOR PREPARATION OF

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >WPS?

>

> >PLEASE

> HELP.

> >THANKING YOU.

>

> >Dear

> Sir,

>

> >Thanking You,

>

> >Honesty is the best

> Policy

>

> >With Warm Regards,

>

> >Muthu Barathi P

> >Mobile

>

> No:00962788269821 (Jordan)

>

> >00962775401951

>

>

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Thanking You,

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With Warm Regards,

Muthu Barathi P
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00962775401951

Re: [MW:9592] Hoe to select Flange's rating and class

Hi,
You have to refer your LDT (Line designation table) and P & ID (Process
instrument diagram).

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:49:05 +0530 wrote
>Dear All!

Could you explain me how to select flange ratings and class against

service, temp, and pressure?

Thanks!

Saamy

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RE: [MW:9590] Expiry period for SMAW consumable-reg

Dear Mr Pradip,

Yes your statement is perfectly correct.

Thank you,

Ilangkumaran

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PREM SHANKARDUTT NAUTIYAL
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:48 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:9589] Expiry period for SMAW consumable-reg

Hi

Pl. browse the reply already given in earlier thread - MW:4205 :

It’s true that boiler or pressure vessel codes or structural welding codes do not specify the shelf-life or expiry dates of welding electrodes.
For example, ASME Nuclear Codes Sec-III, Clause & NB, NC-2440 specifies that:- Suitable storage and handling of electrodes, flux, and other welding materials shall be maintained. Precautions shall be taken to minimize absorption of moisture by fluxes and cored, fabricated, and coated electrodes.

The shelf-life of welding electrodes to a great extent depends on electrode manufacturer’s methods, quality control procedure and how electrodes are handled. Depending on the coating type, packing (hermetically sealed or not), storing methods and ambient conditions, humidity etc, electrodes may last long or less. However as a good practice and based on electrode manufacturer’s guidelines it may be worth considering:-

· Solid Wires, GTAW/GMAW-No shelf Life.

· Cored Wire –FCAW- No shelf life

· SMAW – The rule should be FIFO (First in First Out). Electrodes where the coating shows sign of flaking, cracks etc certainly should be discarded without much thoughts. Electrodes not older than 2-3 years but in good condition may be used. If required the diffusible hydrogen test could be repeated. Electrodes older than 3 years generally should not be used as a good engineering rule.

· SAW Fluxes- Shelf life 2-3 years maximum subject to the flux condition and amount of fine particles/dust generated and behavior during welding.
Thanks.
Pradip Goswami, P.Eng

Regards

Prem Nautiyal

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:48:41 +0530 wrote
>Dear Experts,

generally what is expiry period for SMAw consumables (Flux coated) dose ASME Sec II-C refers regarding this, if so please refer which class.in the consumable wraper only manufactured date is given but not the expiry date.

Thanks & Regards,

K.Pandiarajan.

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Re: [MW:9589] Expiry period for SMAW consumable-reg

Hi

Pl. browse the reply already given in earlier thread - MW:4205 :

It's true that boiler or pressure vessel codes or structural welding codes do not specify the shelf-life or expiry dates of welding electrodes.
For example, ASME Nuclear Codes Sec-III, Clause & NB, NC-2440 specifies that:- Suitable storage and handling of electrodes, flux, and other welding materials shall be maintained. Precautions shall be taken to minimize absorption of moisture by fluxes and cored, fabricated, and coated electrodes.

The shelf-life of welding electrodes to a great extent depends on electrode manufacturer's methods, quality control procedure and how electrodes are handled. Depending on the coating type, packing (hermetically sealed or not), storing methods and ambient conditions, humidity etc, electrodes may last long or less. However as a good practice and based on electrode manufacturer's guidelines it may be worth considering:-

· Solid Wires, GTAW/GMAW-No shelf Life.

· Cored Wire –FCAW- No shelf life

· SMAW – The rule should be FIFO (First in First Out). Electrodes where the coating shows sign of flaking, cracks etc certainly should be discarded without much thoughts. Electrodes not older than 2-3 years but in good condition may be used. If required the diffusible hydrogen test could be repeated. Electrodes older than 3 years generally should not be used as a good engineering rule.

· SAW Fluxes- Shelf life 2-3 years maximum subject to the flux condition and amount of fine particles/dust generated and behavior during welding.
Thanks.
Pradip Goswami, P.Eng

Regards

Prem Nautiyal

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:48:41 +0530 wrote
>Dear Experts,

generally what is expiry period for SMAw consumables (Flux coated) dose ASME Sec II-C refers regarding this, if so please refer which class.in the consumable wraper only manufactured date is given but not the expiry date.

Thanks & Regards,

K.Pandiarajan.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [MW:9588] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65

Mr. Praveen ,
You are correct definitely we can not get El 46% but we can get YS and
TS with base metal matching by that way it will pass in TS and
naturally it will pass impact at -10 deg C so PQR will be passed.

Thank you

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:49:40 +0530 wrote
>Mr.Muthu,

You mean to say that the PQR when qualified should meet or exceed the
actual values mentioned in the MTC and not the minimum specified for
the base material (X65).

I think such a requirement is very unusual, you can match the strength
part, but I think its going to be a difficult task in locating a
consumable to give you 46% elongation.

Wish you good luck!

Regards,

Praveen
>
>--- On Mon, 1/31/11, muthu barathi
wrote:
>

>From: muthu barathi
>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [MW:9584] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable
welding consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65
>To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 1:27 PM
>
>
Mr. Praveen,
>
>Thank you for your mail .
>
>My base metal's physical properties as given below:
>
>YS - 516MPa
>TS - 6256MPa
>El - 46%
>
>But the consumables physical properties is
>YS - 448 MPa.
>TS - 531 MPa.
>EL% - 23
>
>While testing definitely it will fail in weld metal and PQR will not
>pass.
>
>This base metal will suit with ESAB OK 74.70 for SMAW and for SAW OK
>AUTOROD 13.24 - F8A10 - EG-G.
>
>This suits my requirement and now I am searching this consumables.
>Being a slow moving item it is very difficult to get .I tried in
Dubai,
>Saudi all middle east and India. Not readily available.
>
>Thanks to all my friends for given your valuable suggestions and
>spending your precise time.
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:16:08 +0530 wrote
>>Mr.Muthu,
>
>I have qualified and used these combinations on ISO 3183-3 L485MCS
(API
>5L X70 Equivalent)
successfully.
>
>Your PQR will get through comfortably for X65 grade.
>
>As I have mentioned earlier in my mail, Youracceptance criteria of the
>PQR should as a minimummeet the minimum specified properties of the
>base material and any additional requirements imposed by your clients
>specifications.
>
>I have attached a sample copy of OK 74.70 consumable TC for your
>reference, you can see the actual values of yield, tensile and impact
>propertiesof the particular batch of electrode ismeeting your minimum
>requirement of X 65
>
>YS - 448 MPa.
>TS - 531 MPa.
>EL% - 23 -
>>Impact at 0 deg.C 27 Joules.
>
>since the nickel is less than 1% you can use it for sour service as
>well, only care you should take is to make sure the capping pass HAZ
>doesnt exceed 275 HV, if at all sour service is imposed.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Regards,
>
>A.Praveen
>Muscat
>
>
>>--- On Sun, 1/30/11,
muthu barathi
>wrote:
>>
>
>>From: muthu barathi
>>Subject: Re: Re: [MW:9566] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable
>welding consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65
>>To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>>Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 7:31 PM
>>
>>
>Hi Mr Pravin,
>>
>>thank you. I have to run the PQR and the PQR has to pass the tests.
>>
>>Now you have seen the MTC contents . please tell me while testing by
>>using the ok74.70 electrodes E8018G what reading we may ecept?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:22:59 +0530 wrote
>>>Mr.Muthu,
>>
>>
>>
>>Since your material is API 5L X65 you can try the following
>>combination,
>>
>>
>>
>>1. SMAW - E 8018 G (OK 74.70) from ESAB - Take it from Sweden plant.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>2. SAW consumables from Lincoln
Electric.
>>
>>
>>
>>AWS Class F8A/P8 - E Ni5 - Ni5
>>
>>
>>
>>Trade Names
>>
>>P240 - Flux
>>
>>LNS 165 - Wire
>>
>>
>>
>>From the chemical composition you listed, the Carbon Equivalent value
>>comes to around 0.38.
>>
>>
>>
>>Preheat the joint around 100 Deg. C, Interpass 250 Deg.C Max.
>>
>>
>>
>>Since your Diameters are 48" and 36" are you going to back chip from
>>the
>inside to ensure complete penetration? If yes then you can use OK
>>74.70.
>>
>>
>>
>>I you dont have access towards the root side of the weld joint, I
will
>>recommend you to use ER 70S 6 or ER 70S2 (GTAW), do not use cellulose
>>electrodes for the root passes.
>>
>>
>>
>>What ever consumable that has been mentioned above, please make sure
>>that all of them meets the minimum specified
properties of the base
>>material (X65).
>>
>>
>>
>>Both the SMAW and SAW conusmables mentioned above will definitely
meet
>>your requirement of X65 and for ER 70S 6 or ER 70S 2 you'll have to
>>talk to the manufacturer / dealer.
>>
>>
>>
>>Make sure you get conusmable TC batch tested (Both mechanical and
>>chemical), do not accept batch TC's showing typical values.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hope this
>helps,
>>
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>A.Praveen
>>
>>Muscat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Sat, 1/29/11, Siegbert Hafenscherer
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Siegbert Hafenscherer
>>alloys.com>
>>
>>> Subject: [MW:9551] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding
>>consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L
X65
>>
>>> To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>>
>>> Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 9:54 PM
>>
>>> Dear Mr. Muthu,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> It seems you need a usual welding material like
>>
>>> E71T-1M/E71T-1
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Siegbert
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>
>>> Von: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>>
>>> [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
>>
>>> Im Auftrag von Raghuram Bathula
>>
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2011 14:14
>>
>>> An: Materials & Welding
>>
>>> Betreff:
>[MW:9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding
>>
>>> consumables SAW and
>>
>>> SMAW for API 5L X65
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Be explicit about your question
>>
>>>
Open-ended questions tend to be perceived as open-ended
>>
>>> time sinks.
>>
>>> Those people most likely to be able to give you a useful
>>
>>> answer are
>>
>>> also the busiest people.
>>
>>> You are more likely to get a useful response if you are
>>
>>> explicit about
>>
>>> what you want respondents to do (provide pointers, send
>>
>>> info,
>>
>>> whatever). This will focus their effort and implicitly put
>>
>>> an upper
>>
>>> bound on the time and energy a respondent must allocate to
>>
>>> helping
>>
>>> you. This is good.
>>
>>> To understand the world the experts live in, think of
>>
>>> expertise as an
>>
>>> abundant resource and time to respond as a scarce one. The
>>
>>> less of
>a
>>
>>> time commitment
you implicitly ask for, the more likely you
>>
>>> are to get
>>
>>> an answer from someone really good and really busy.
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>>>
>>
>>> On Jan 29, 12:32 pm, "muthu barathi"
>>
>>> wrote:
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>>> > Dear Sir
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Actually this material is for Piling work. We are
>>
>>> constructing a new
>>
>>> > jetty . Steel Pile material is API - 5 L PSL - 2 /
>>
>>> Grade X-65 . Pile
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>>> > size OD - 1219mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm and also
>>
>>> other size OD -
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>>> > 914mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm.
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>>> >
>>
>>> > Now I want make a WPS by carrying out PQR . So I am
>>
>>> searching based on
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>>> > the sample pipe's MTC. The reading I have given is
>>
>>> replica of
MTC and
>>
>>> > the is certified by Lloyds Surveyor too.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Now please tell me the
>correct welding electrode for
>>
>>> SMAW and wire and
>>
>>> > flux for SAW process. As per API 5L PSL 2 / Grade 65.
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>>> the requirement -
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>>> >
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>>> > X 65 - YS - 448 MPa. TS - 531 MPa. EL% - 23 -
>>
>>> Impact at 0 deg.C
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>>> > 27 Joules. C - 0.22 Mn - 1.45
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>>> P- 0.025
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>>> > S- 0.015 Ti - 0.06
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>>> >
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>>> > Approved brands electrodes - ESAB and OERLIKON from
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>>> these consumables
>>
>>> > shall be selected.
>>
>>> >
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>>> > While testing PQR it should not fail.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Expecting your mail
shortly.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Thanking You.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > With Regards,
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Muthu Barathi P
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:28:26 +0530 wrote
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>>> >
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>>> >
>>
>>> > Mr. Muthu,
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> > What's the applicable specification for this
>>
>>> material,
>>
>>> > ASTM/ASME/EN or any proprietary grade for any client
>>
>>> or any vendor's
>>
>>> > specification.The elongation and impact properties
>>
>>> asked are highly
>>
>>> > un-realistic. You never get a Carbon or Low Alloy
>>
>>> steel with 46%
>>
>>> > elongation
>>
>>> > requirement, also, impact requirement is
extremely
>>
>>> high.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > I would say, if you have any design paper work, which
>>
>>> > indicates the grade or heat treatment of this steel
>>
>>> the correct AWS
>>
>>> > type of
>>
>>> > welding consumables, SAW wire+flux specification etc
>>
>>> could be worked
>>
>>> > out.
>>
>>> > Otherwise YOU SHOULD NEVER CHOOSE WELDING CONSUMABLES
>>
>>> BASED ON THE
>>
>>> > CHEMICAL
>>
>>> >
>COMPOSITION ALONE.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Thanks.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE
>>
>>> > Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
>>
>>> > & Consultant
>>
>>> > Ontario, Canada.
>>
>>> >
Email-pgosw...@sympatico.ca,
>>
>>> > pgosw...@quickclic.net
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>>
>>> > [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
>>
>>> On Behalf Of Pablo J
>>
>>> > Acelajado>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:08
>>
>>> AM
>>
>>> > >To:
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > materials-welding@googlegroups.com>Subject:
>>
>>> RE: [MW:9529] Requirement
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > January 27,
>>
>>> > 2011
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> > Hello there!
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > This
material is very strong one. I think
>>
>>> > the welding consumable suppliers can best answer this
>>
>>> question.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > My understanding is that the percentage
>>
>>> > elongationis not required for the weld.
>>
>>> > Thank you.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Best regards.
>>
>>> > PJA
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > From:
>>
>>> > materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>>
>>> > [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
>>
>>> On Behalf Of Kathalingam
>>
>>> > Babu>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:10
>>
>>> > PM
>>
>>> > >To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>>
>>> > >Subject: Re: [MW:9526] Requirement of
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > suitable welding
consumables SAW and SMAW
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Hi
>>
>>> >
>>
>>>
>> The elongation requirement is very stringent, it is
>>
>>> very
>>
>>> > difficult to meet 46%, you have consult with the
>>
>>> specific consumable
>>
>>> > suppliers
>>
>>> > to get 46%
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Thanks & Regards,
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > K. Babu
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >----- Original Message -----
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > From: muthu barathi
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Sent: Thursday,
>>
>>> > January 27, 2011 4:36 PM
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Subject:
[MW:9523]
>>
>>> > Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW
>>
>>> and
>>
>>> > SMAW
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Hi Friends,
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >Let me get your expertise of
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > selection of welding consumables in
>>
>>>
>this>regard.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >The base material
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > Chemical properties as given under (%):
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >C - 0.066
>>
>>> > >Si - 0.26
>>
>>> > >Mn -
>>
>>> > 1.55
>>
>>> > >P
- 0.014
>>
>>> > >S - 0.004
>>
>>> > >Al - 0.046
>>
>>> > >Cr - 0.186
>>
>>> > >Ni - 0.015
>>
>>> > >Mo
>>
>>> > - 0.002
>>
>>> > >Cu - 0.020
>>
>>> > >V - 0.057
>>
>>> > >Nb - 0.065
>>
>>> > >Ti - 0.020
>>
>>> > >N -
>>
>>> > 0.007
>>
>>> > >B - 0.00025
>>
>>> > >Ca - 0.0025
>>
>>> > >CE - 0.371
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >MECHANICAL
>>
>>> >
>PROPERTIES
>>
>>> > >YIELD STRENGTH - 516 MPa
>>
>>> > >TENSILE STRENGTH - 625
>>
>>> > MPa.
>>
>>> > >ELONG % - 46
>>
>>> > >IMOPACT
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > - (-) 10 DEGREE C -
250 JOULES
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >NOW PLEASE TELL ME, WHICH
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > ELECTRODE FOR SMAW (BRAMDS ESAB, OERLIKON)>AND
>>
>>> SAW - FLUX AND WIRE WILL
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > SUIT AND PASS PQR TEST FOR PREPARATION OF
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >WPS?
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >PLEASE
>>
>>> > HELP.
>>
>>> > >THANKING YOU.
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >Dear
>>
>>> > Sir,
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >Thanking You,
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >Honesty is the best
>>
>>> >
>Policy
>>
>>>
>
>>
>>> > >With Warm Regards,
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >Muthu Barathi P
>>
>>> > >Mobile
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > No:00962788269821 (Jordan)
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> > >00962775401951
>>
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>>
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