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Re: [MW:30572] Re: PQR mentioning position 3G and our WPS stated 1G

Just to add, please find below SS position applicability.

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-26 is restricted by most specifications as alloying additions through Flux coating using a mild steel core wire

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J.Gerald Jayakumar




On Monday, March 2, 2020, 02:02:10 PM GMT+7, Kannayeram Gnanapandithan <kgpandithan@gmail.com> wrote:


Code shall give guidelines but we have to decide good Engineering practice. Example. Electrode positional capacity- qualification code shall not give solutions, we have to decide . Let us not confuse ourselves. Thanks. 

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 9:27 am José Juan Jiménez Alejandro, <jjjimeneza@gmail.com> wrote:
PQR mentions the 3G position and our WPS declared 1G:
If we are working with ASME IX, I think that from the beginning there was ignorance of the Code, if your PQR mentions 3G, your WPS would have written it (if that wording was on your own) to fulfill all the positions, for example 6G If you are using it for pipes, at that time you could rate your welders in the position that the needs of your project require.
Remember, there are essential variables for the PQR and WPS and others for welders, but I suggest you review and study the Code carefully and do not wait for your questions to be resolved in a forum.

El sáb., 29 feb. 2020 a las 10:36, Charles Jacob (<charlesvj@gmail.com>) escribió:
Hi all,  

As mentioned here, for a PQR which was done on 3G position, according to code, wps can be used in all 4 Welding position (flat, horizontal, Vertical, overhead). However there are other implied requirements like welding position capabilities for electrode which varies from one manufacturer to another. 

 So, the code requirement is valid only if electrode has all positions capability.


Regards, 

Charles V Jacob 





On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 2:56 PM 'Karthik' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi,
You can specify in the Position column as "ALL POSITION" 

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On Saturday, February 29, 2020, 02:51:59 PM GMT+7, Karthik <karthik6684@yahoo.com> wrote:


Sorry, last mail specified as QG-101. It should be QW-101.
Hi,
WPS must address all Essential and Non-Essential Variables used in production welding as per QW-101. Even though position is an Non Essential variable, you must address the position you are going to use in the production welding. Simply you can specify 6G. So you can use this WPS for all position welding.

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On Saturday, February 29, 2020, 02:49:33 PM GMT+7, Karthik <karthik6684@yahoo.com> wrote:


Hi,
WPS must address all Essential and Non-Essential Variables used in production welding as per QG-101. Even though position is an Non Essential variable, you must address the position you are going to use in the production welding. Simply you can specify 6G. So you can use this WPS for all position welding.

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On Saturday, February 29, 2020, 02:40:27 PM GMT+7, harenath jha <harenathjha@gmail.com> wrote:


It is not required

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 11:45 Rash <tiamlord@gmail.com> wrote:
IF position not an essential variables, why need to change WPS  1G and add 6G position?




понедельник, 20 октября 2014 г., 16:29:28 UTC+5 пользователь dili...@gmail.com написал:

If your Code is ASME and if your project specifications do not include any additional requirements, then you may proceed as follows:
Position is not an essential variable for WPS qualification, so you do not need a new PQR.
You draft a new WPS based on the essential variables of the existing PQR and you include also the position 6G.
Then you can qualify the welder

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    Subject: [MW:22147] Re: PQR mentioning position 3G and our WPS stated 1G
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    Dear All,
    Kindly advise,

    1G Qualificaiton is mentioned on WPS & PQR and if we want to qualify the welder on 6G position, do we need to prepare new WPS and PQR or only PQR and WPS (1G) be the same....

    Khan....

    On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:27:05 AM UTC+4, israr wrote:
      Dear,
      You just delete position 1 g from wps and write All,
      As per ASME Section IX if WPS is qualified in any one position of 1G
      to 6G it is qualify for all the position.
      Then u can attached nos of PQR with dirrent position following the
      same WPS.

      Regards
      Israr Ahmed
      Tata Projects Ltd.India
      +919930308261

      On Nov 11, 2:35 pm, Zulfan <zul...@insing.com> wrote:
      > Dear all,
      >
      > please advice in our PQR mentioning position 3G and our WPS stated 1G
      > is the WPS able to apply or need to run again PQR again?
      > code ASME sec IX
      >
      > Thank
      > zul

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