Re: [MW:14915] EN 10204 - 3.2 Certificate for Assembled product

Dear Sevak,

Part 4.2 of EN10204:2004 says:

It shall be permissible for the manufacturer to transfer on to the inspection certificate 3.2 relevant test results obtained by specific inspection on primary or incoming products he uses, provided that the manufacturer operates traceability producers and can provide the corresponding ispection documents required.

 

From the above part and also "incoming products he uses" I think this standard will not be limited to raw materials. In case of raw materials what do you think about "incoming products"?

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:48 PM, sevak hiren <hirensevak80@gmail.com> wrote:

Many people think that EN 10204 only covers the type of inspection reports.

 

But they overlook that it is only valid for metallic products/materials and the corresponding manufactures of these materials. Please read EN 10204 again and have a look on the definitions of manufacturer and material.

 

EN 10204 is only applicable for metallic products. A metallic product is not a valve / any assembled product, but - as written in EN 10204 - metal sheets, bars, forgings and castings. EN 10204 can also be used for non-metallic products but it is in any case related to raw materials only.

 

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Shashank Vagal <nach_sam@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gents, In case of assembled products an MDR from the manufacturer incorporating MTCs for components used can be the acceptable mode of certification. Best regards, Shashank Vagal --- On Wed, 18/7/12, meisam shokri arfaei <meisamshokri@gmail.com> wrote: From: meisam shokri arfaei <meisamshokri@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MW:14890] EN 10204 - 3.2 Certificate for Assembled product To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012, 5:30 PM Dear Sevak I don't know why you think so, but basically certificate type 3.2 can be use for both row materials and assembled products. Please have a look on part 4.2 of the EN 10204-2004. There mentioned that manufacturer can uses the test results in the 3.2 certificate of his row material directly (without any new test) in the 3.2 certificate of his product.   Regards On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:05 AM, sevak hiren <hirensevak80@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Experts,   EN 10204 Type 3.2 Certificate is applicable to non-metalic & metalic products like plates, sheets, bars, forgings, castings etc. (Applicable to raw material products only)   So, this type of certificate can not be issued for complete assembled products like Valve, Pump, any machine etc.   Please let me know your views. -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. -- M. Shokri Arfaei International Welding Engineer (IWE) ASNT NDT Level III ERI Metallurgy Lab. Manager Tel: +98-21-66282127 Fax: +98-21-66282779   Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. BeGreen! -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents.

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