Thursday, June 21, 2012

Re: [MW:14627] CS reactor exposed to temperature run away in presence of H2

Dear Mr. Hrishkesan,

From the provided data and background information, the concern is about HTHA. (High Temperature Hydrogen Attack) . Request to provide the important parameters - operating conditions and partial pressure of Hydrogen, in order to access the detailed effect to HTHA.

Request to refer API 941, which is widely accepted standard to defines safe limit of HTHA inspection methodology and factors influencing HTHA. I am referring certain extract from API 941, for your case.

Nelson curves defines the safe operating conditions for long term exposure to hydrogen service. First of all, determine safe operating conditions for your reactor.

Please note that HTHA begins once service conditions ( temp, partial pr. of hydrogen) allows diffusion of hydrogen is steel. HTHA is time bound attack, during initial phase the deterioration is so microscopic that can't be detected with current NDE and metallographic examination. After this period, there is time, when no noticeable changes in property, that could be determined by current examination method. After this time period, there will be noticeable change in properties of material, which may be detected by NDE / metallographic examination.

This phenomenon varies with type of steel, severity of exposure, and other factors. It may last only few hours under extreme conditions may become progressive at lower temp, and partial pressure of hydrogen.

The length of the incubation period is important, as it defines the safe conditions of the equipment. The incubation curve for carbon steel is given in Fig. 3 of API 941.
Pl find the safe conditions with short term exposure (450 Deg C for couple of hours with partial pressure of H2) . If co incident point is below the curve, still no noticeable effect of HTHA.

But, the short term exposure at 700 Deg C for 15-20 minutes is quite severe and may become fatal. Pl take replica and check micro structure for decarburization and fissuring.

Pl refer Ann. E of API 941, for summary of Inspection methods for HTHA and access the situation.



With Best Regards,

Jignesh R Rana
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sudharsan s ---21/06/2012 09:02:17---What was the pressure during the excursion of high temperature? What was the partial pressure of Hyd

From: sudharsan s <sudharsan.inspection@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: 21/06/2012 09:02
Subject: Re: [MW:14621] CS reactor exposed to temperature run away in presence of H2
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What was the pressure during the excursion of high temperature?
 
What was the partial pressure of Hydrogen during sweeping?
 
For High temperature Hydrogen attack to occur, it requires some incubation period. Even then, look from that perspective also
 


 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:23 PM, K.M Hrishikesan <hrishikm07@gmail.com> wrote:
     
     
    Vessel Description: Reactor
    MOC: SA 516 gr 70
    Design temperature: 200 deg C
    Design pressure: 44.6 kg/cm.sq
    Thickness: 36 mm for shell; 50 mm for the dished end
     
    Service: Hydrogen environment in the presence of catalyst
     
    Above equipment was accidentally subject to temperature run away during Hydrogen sweeping. As a result the temperature shot up abruptly to the range of
    700 deg.C. for 15-20 minutes and 450 deg c for approximately a couple of hours.We have checked the hardness which is found to be OK. In-situ metallography is underway.
     
    My queries to metallurgical experts are
     
      1. What will be the metallurgical impact on integrity of the vessel due to above incident?

         2. How can we assess the damage/degradation which might have occurred on the  of the vessel in terms of its metallurgy? please suggest some NDE's

     
     
    Regards
    Hrishi
     

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With Regards,
Sudharsan

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