Can we used Old WPS approved by other client on new project and new Client/Owner

Dear Expert/Sir, 

I'm working on a project as Qc Mech Engineer. My query is, can we used same material and thickness specified old approved WPS which is provided by vendor over to a new project  and new client/Owner.

  Therefore, if Yes or No, so plzz mention with code/standard reference.. 

I hope You can better help me in this matter. 

I wait for your reply Sir

Thanks for regards 

Istekhar (Mechanical QC) 

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On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, 2:41 pm abdullah arshi <abdullah.arshi@gmail.com wrote:

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From: Sudheer Babu <sudheerbabun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:29822] HIGH HARDNESS AFTER PWHT (ER70S-2)
To: <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>

Yes better to change the filler wire / make and check again.

Sudheer Babu Nelapati

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 6:22 AM Raghuram Bathula <raghurambathula@gmail.com> wrote:

Intersting Mr Kondori

Do you have any refernace or research paper on this subject?

Thanks

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 09:23, Ramin Kondori <raminkondori@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

ER 70S-2 is a triple deoxidized steel welding wire. 

It has Ti, Zr, and Al additions (please check your filler metal certificate).

After PWHT, these elements can increase the hardness of weld metal (but not HAZ or base metal). Many do not consider this when choosing filler metal.

 

I recommend you to conduct a chemical analysis examination on both the filler metal (rod or electrode) and production weld metal and revert back to us. 

Regards

Ramin  Kondori

Sr. QA/QC & Welding Engineer

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PG-Dip. in Welding Engineering (IWE  AT  0070)

BSc. in Civil Engineering (IUT)

BGAS Painting Inspector

ASNT Level I&II

                        

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:11 PM Karthikeyan Muthuvel <m.karthick2020@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

Good day.

We had used the consumables (ER70S-2) / OK TIG ROD 12.62, Size : 2.4mm Dia. for our Production weld joints (Pipe materials : Carbon Steel ASTM A 106 Gr. B; Size : 3" X Sch 40). further to inform you that we had checked the Hardness of Base material , HAZ & on weld Metal before & after PWHT (below hardness readings were observed).

HARDNESS VALUES BEFORE PWHT

1. Base material : 130 to 150 HB
2. Heat Affected Zone : 140 to 160 HB
3. Weld Metal : 170 to 190 HB

HARDNESS VALUES AFTER PWHT 

1. Base material : 120 to 140 HB
2. Heat Affected Zone : 130 to 150 HB
3. Weld Metal : 210 to 250 HB

After performing PWHT the hardness value of Base material & Heat Affected Zone has been reduced. whereas the Hardness value of Weld Deposition has been increased (which is beyond the acceptable limit). 

So, I would like to know from you that what might be the technical reason/root cause for increase in hardness only on the weld joint after PWHT. 

Below are the PWHT parameters fyi.

Soaking Temp. : 620 Deg C

Soaking Time : 1 hr.

Rate of Heating : 100 Deg C per Hour (from 100 Deg C)

Rate of Cooling : 100 Deg C per Hour (Upto 100 Deg C)

Note:

1. We had performed nearly 30Nos. of Production joints & we had face the problem of Hardness on all the weld joints. 
2. Hardness was tested using Mic 10 tester method ( even cross verified with Equotip method & Tele brinell Method)

Thank you for your support.

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