Re: [MW:27531] ASTM A 694 F 65 FLANGES

Yes I agree!!

In general Tempering temperature of Materials need to higher the PWHT holding temperature.

During the ordering/Procurement of Materials care needs to be taken in order to about minimum tempering temperature of Materials & same needs to be higher than the intended PWHT temperature however same shall not exceed Lower critical temperature of same materials.

Eg: 

EIL specifications states that tempering temperature of Materials should be 20-25Deg C more than PWHT temperature.

ASME B31.3 States that there should be minimum 28Deg C more

Shell DEP states - 20DegC more 

UOP process licensor says 25Deg C more

Regards

Anil YARROLU

On Mar 18, 2018 5:55 PM, "Prabhu kumar Loganathan" <prabhu_rec@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Hi Prasad,

I do not understand, why is it not retain properties after PWHT of F65 forgings?

Most of F60 or F65 materials are supplied in Q&T condition with tempering at 540 Deg. C as per ASTM A694, unless you specifically asked for tempering temperature of at or above 660 Deg. C since it has to be stress relieved at 650 Deg. C. Unless you specify in PO specification, vendor will not supply with above condition and hence you cannot stress relieve F65 materials with 650 Deg. C.

If F65 is delivered with tempering temperature of >660 Deg. C then obsoletely you can use it with stress relieving. All these conditions shall be included in the PO specification and it can be available in the market.

Regards,

L. Prabhu kumar
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From: N VENKATESWARA PRASAD <weldengr.velosi@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 19:22:18
To: materials-welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [MW:27517] ASTM A 694 F 65 FLANGES

 

Hi Experts,

 

We are using ASTM A 182 F 22 materials in sub sea  tree parts.  These forgings needs to be welded to ASTM A 694 F 65 pup pieces.  We need to do PWHT at 650 deg. C  for 6 hours.  The F 65 forgings can not retain the properties due to PWHT.  Hence we are doing buttering the F 22 and carrying out PWHT and then welding to F 65 forging with out PWHT.  

 

 I am looking for supplier who can provide the F 65 forgings which can retain its properties with PWHT.  It shall meet the the mechanical properties including hardness ( 250 Hv10)  in the as welded and PWHT condition also.  This will give more savings as we are avoiding buttering.

 

Please share if your have any details on it.

 

Regards

 

Prasad

 

 

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