Re: [MW:27525] Combination of PQR in same WPS

Dear Ankur,

This impact value only required in consumable certificate or in PQR only.

When your purchasing consumable with -46 impact tested and your PQR also pass in -46 impact value ,this WPS

you can use all normal carbon steel and LTCS material it will help to reduce the PQR and WPS. 

Regards,

PETER SOLOMAN

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:04 AM, Anandh Kumar <anandh23@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ankur,

As Mr. Ramesh informed on the basis, i would like to give a simple example for easy understanding. 

Consider an organisation has performed a PQR with GTAW process on XX date for a GTAW WPS qualification. Later on YY date, another PQR performed by the same organisation for SMAW process for a SMAW WPS qualification.

Now the organisation would have 2 WPSs with individual process on each of the WPS. Now a new job has come, which demands the combination of Processes in one WPS. In this instance, the 2 PQRs can be combined together to make 1 WPS with both processes involved, provided that all the essential variables in the PQRs are within the limits as allowed by Section IX. This is one possible reason among many as such.

Regards

Anandh

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Ramesh <rameshkannandevaraj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

 

how non-impact tested PQR ( your third PQR)  supported with impact tested WPS !!! any thickness limitation they mentioned in WPS??? Need more details on that... 

To utilize the advantage of clause in ASME Sec IX-QW- 200.2(f), Multiple WPSs With One PQR or Multiple PQRs With One WPS,  

Welding Engineer decides the best possible combinations of various PQRS by supporting in single WPS by considering production weldment requirements, design aspects like service condition, Design / operating temp etc.. 

​Other basic reasons like to combine processes like Root pass from one PQR & Rest from other PQRs etc. or to cover thickness ranges or use multiple consumables combination or additional positions etc.. etc.. in Single WPS 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:32 PM, 'Chetan Kapadia' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear Ankur,

It is general guide line to reduce number of WPS / PQR & technically why increase qualification requirements beyond bare minimum.

Over a period of time & with great understanding even code has gone to the extent of recognising concept of sWPS to further reduce the burden of inventing the wheel again & again in advance fast moving technological life.

It is this technical philosophy that even the third test piece preserved by you shall be useful in an eventuallity as either

1. In case of major repair at site requiring one additional PWHT; The validation by additional PWHT & testing shall become best directional results before proceeding for repair.

OR

2. In future the same equipment under different design temperature can be tested even prior to accepting an order. That means further validation for different criteria (This type of research & its acceptance from welding, metallurgy & corrosion as well as life cycle of equipment can expand the horizen

& value addition to international community.

Hope explanation shall be open for new discussion. 

Thanks & Regards,
C.B.Kapadia,
9892633442

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 at 7:17 pm, Ankur Pandey

<ankurpandey25@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

I have a WPS(Impact tested) which is supported by 03 different PQR's. One of PQR is impact tested at -46° C, other at -29°C and third one is not tested for impact. I am not sure what could be the reason for combining these PQR's other than impact requirements.

Can someone give me general guidelines what are the usual reasons for use combination of PQR's in single WPS.

Regards,

Ankur Pandey.

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