Friday, June 20, 2014

FW: [MW:21192] Reasons for High Hardness on WM and HAZ

Hi Perumal,
 
I read you reply and the attachment which you' ad sent along with your email.SA 537Cl1 is a steel with nominal UTS of 70 Ksi, hence E-7018-7018-1 would have been the appropriate electrode to this steel.The selection of welding electrode is always on the nominal UTS of the base metal allowed in the code. Due to micro alloying or accelerated cooling or other minor deviations of heat treatment, one may get higher that the allowable UTS, however that's precisely is not the reason to chase more alloyed electrode to exactly match base metal. In as welded conditions "residual stresses"  also act on increasing UTS of weld /HAZ.
 
Since use of 8018-C3 electrode caused excessive hardness in the weld and HAZ , you may have resolve this issue with the AI. See below are the conditions when hardness is a requirement in fabrication of such tanks. If the hardness is beyond design specification limits, you may have to resort to PWHT, or switch to electrodes of  70Ksi strength category.
 
Hope this would be of help.
 
Thanks
 
Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE
Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
Ontario, Canada
 

 

 

5.3.3 Service

 Conditions

The Purchaser shall specify any applicable special metallurgical requirements. When the service conditions might include the presence of hydrogen sulfide or other conditions that could promote hydrogen-induced cracking, notably near the bottom of the shell at the shell-to-bottom connections, care should be taken for  materials and welding to resist hydrogen-induced cracking.  The weld metal and adjacent heat-affected zone often contain a zone of hardness well in excess of Rockwell C 22(248HV) and can be expected to be more susceptible to cracking than unwelded metal is. Any hardness criteria should be a matter of agreement between the Purchaser and the Manufacturer and should be based on an evaluation of the expected hydrogen sulfide concentration in the product, the possibility of moisture being present on the inside metal surface, and the strength and hardness characteristics of the base metal and weld metal.


From: Perumal Govindan [mailto:perumalgovindan@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:52 AM
To: pgoswami
Subject: Re: [MW:21144] Reasons for High Hardness on WM and HAZ

Dear Sir,

 

Thank you very much for your reply.

 

Further, the electrode was selected based on the requirements of API 650:2013 Edition, Clause 4.8.2

 

(API 650: 2013, Clause 4.8.2 ( on page 49 of 514): For the welding of materials with a minimum tensile strength of 550 MPa to 585 MPa (80 ksi to 85 ksi), the manual arc-welding electrodes shall conform to the E80XX-CX classification series in AWS A5.5.)

 

Please find the attached copy of API 650:2013 and MTCs of ASTM A537 Class 1, hence once again request your good self kindly review and provide your feed back as early as possible.

 


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Thank You and Regards

 

P Govindan

Mobile: +919643152414

Direct : +911294291200

 

 

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:38 AM, pgoswami <pgoswami@quickclic.net> wrote:

Hi Govindan,

 

Why did you choose E 8018-C3 electrode for SA 537 Cl1 plates. SA 537 Cl1 is almost back to back to SA 515 Gr70 Steel. Based on the  impact requirement as indicated below, E-7018-1 would have been appropriate. I would  say that E 8018-C3 would have been advisable if the welds would have undergone enhanced heat treatment e.g Normalizing.

 

The high hardness in the weld and HAZ is due to the use of overalloyed electrode .E-8018C3/Tenacito 70 contains typically 1.005 Nickel.Nickel causes to form acicular ferrite in the weld/HAZ , which in turn causes higher hardness.

 

Thanks

 

 

Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE

Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

Ontario, Canada

 


Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:22:33 +0530
Subject: [MW:21143] Reasons for High Hardness on WM and HAZ
From: perumalgovindan@gmail.com
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

Dear Experts,

 

We have conducted PQR and measured the hardness values between 248 HV to 269 HV:

 

Material Specification and Parameters:

 

Material Specification: ASTM A537 Class 1,Plate 12.8 mm thickness, SMAW process, 4G position

 

Electrode Used: AWS / SFA: 5.5, E 8018-C3, Brand Name: TENALLOY-70/ADOR welding limited.

 

Electrode baking Temp.: 350 deg. C for 2 hours

 

Electrode Holding temp.: 150 deg. C

 

Preheat: Ambient temperature (surrounding temp. was 40 deg. Centigrade)

 

Interpass temp.: 150 deg. C to 185 deg.C

 

Travel Speed: 70 to 80 mm/min

 

Voltage: 20 to 24V

 

Current: 70 to 79A

 

Heat input: 1.45 KJ/mm to 2.27 KJ/mm

 

 

Lab test Results:

 

UTS: 571 MPa

 

Bend test; Accepted

 

Impact test at 0 deg. C:WM - Average 102J and HAZ: 234J

 

Hardness Value: 248HV to 269HV.

 

Request to provide the reasons for high hardness

 

 

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Thank You and Regards

 

P Govindan

Mobile: +919643152414

Direct : +911294291200


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