The WPS must reference the supporting PQR.
However, The PQR does not have to reference any WPS. You may reference a WPS if that is something you want to do.
As stated by others, a single PQR may support a multiplicity of WPS’s. In that case do you require all WPS’s supported by the PQR to be referenced on the PQR? Stuff and nonsense.
Obviously you will have a trial “WPS” or set of instructions for the welder stating the starting parameters or parameter ranges. You are not required to retain or present this with your WPS. By extension you would not have to “name” this trial document.
John A. Henning
Welding & Materials
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of SRINI
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:24 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:17774] WPS no. on PQR
Dear Kanagapandian
It shall be mentioned in PQR.
Please go to caluse QW-200.1 (b) & (e)second paragraph
The WPS shall reference the supporting Procedure Qualification
Record(s) (PQR) described in QW-200.2. The
manufacturer or contractor may include any other information
in the WPS that may be helpful in making a Code.
(e) Availability of the PQR. PQRs used to support WPSs
shall be available, upon request, for review by the
Authorized Inspector (AI). The PQR need not be available
to the welder or welding operator.
PQR- is only one time
WPS- we prepare many time with in essential limit in supporting PQR.
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:22 AM, John Henning <jhenning@deltak.com> wrote:
No, it is not required. See QW-200.2 (b) – Contents of the PQR. “The completed PQR shall document all essential and , when required supplementary essential variables of QW-250 through QW-280 for each welding process used during welding of the test coupon. Non-essential and other variables used during the welding of the test coupon may be recorded at the manufacturers or contractors option. . . . “ There is no requirement for recording a WPS number.
Further, regarding the form provided by Sc IX “ Form QW-483, see Nonmandatory Appendix B, has been provided as a guide for the PQR. . . .”
See also the last paragraph of QW-100.1 “The PQR documents what occurred during welding the test coupon and results of testing of the coupon. As a minimum, the PQR shall document the essential variables and other specific information identified in Article II for each process used during welding the test coupon and the results of the required testing. In addition when notch toughness testing is required for procedure qualification, the applicable supplementary essential variables for each process shall be recorded.”
For ASME Section IX it is NOT required.
When stating requirements, one should provide Code reference(s) otherwise indicate it is an “opinion”.
John A. Henning
Welding & Materials
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of james gerald
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:15 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:17760] WPS no. on PQR
Yes it is required.
Thanks & Regards
J.Gerald Jayakumar
00968-99438165
From: kannayeram gnanapandithan <kgpandithan@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: [MW:17758] WPS no. on PQR
Is it required to put WPS no. in PQR, if so pl give code ref
Pandithan
Welding Consultant
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