Tuesday, August 3, 2010

RE: [MW:6270] Re: Application of B31G - Strength of corroded Pipe

Dear Rahul
You can't use ASME B31G for new construction (scope clearly indicates this), i.e. this manual can't be used for establishing acceptance standards for pipes, that may have become corroded prior to or during fabrication/installation.


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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hpi001
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:21 AM
To: Materials & Welding
Subject: [MW:6265] Re: Application of B31G - Strength of corroded Pipe

Dear Rahul,

In my opinion you are correct, the minimum allowed wall thickness is the nominal wall thickness including manufacturing tolerances, minus the corrosion allowance which is taken into account during design calculation.
I'm not that familiar with ASME but when pressure vessels and / or piping are designed under the European Pressure Equipment Directive the minimum thickness never is allowed to be less than the value taken into account during calculations.
However if ASME B31G is applicable to the existing piping and you can guarantee proper and safe operation by way of calculations given in this ASME part and based on the wall thickness found during actual measurements than I would say way not using that possibility to extend the piping's lifetime.

Best Regards,

Herman Pieper

On 2 aug, 14:05, "Pisat, R. (Rahul)" <Rahul.Pi...@akzonobel.com>
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> One of plant project engineer has asked me to make document for Minimum required wall thickness for the piping  which is acceptable to run the process with defined design condition under corroded condition.
>
> As per my understanding this the same Min. wall thickness based on calculation of required wall thickness for design pressure and design temperature ..ie  Min. wall thickness which is ( Nominal wall thickness - manufacturing tol..- Corrosion allowance ).
>
> But one of our old engineering manual has listed the use of ASME B31G , manual for determining the remaining strength of corroded Pipelines,  after reading this manual , I can state that this manual gives the strength of corroded portion of the pipeline. Defined parameters in this specification is based on Depth of corrosion and length of the metal loss.
>
> My query is how can I use this ASME B31G for defining the minimum required wall thickness requirement for existing piping network in plant.
>
> Do you agree that my initial assumption of Min. wall thickness ie. Nominal wall thickness - Mfr. Tol. - Corrosion allowance is a right approach ?
>
> Waiting for your suggestions.
>
> reg
>
> Rahul


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