Re: [MW:31174] CS with Duplex SS (S31803) clad vessel PWHT?

Dear Sourav

THIS KIND OF PERSONAL MESSAGES ARE NOT TOLERATED AND NOT ACCEPTABLE.

if you so are confident on PWHT of subject combination, and in case if you want to really share the knowledge, please share the details for our interest, if you have data  for subject material combination

cladding data, heat treatment , procedures qualifications, and test results (corrosion, impact)  etc.

if you have access to in service data of this equipment, it would be interesting to know their performance as well (how many years they are into service?)

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 09:20, Sourav Bohrays <souravbohrays@gmail.com> wrote:

i dont need your any guidance already i have equipment of this kind regularly doing this kind of equipment its better for you to do. numbers of years never matters its better you refer ucl of asme sec 8 div1 edition 2019 ..

On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 7:33 am , <pgoswami@rogers.com> wrote:

Hello Sourav,

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to convey. However what you're writing does not make any sense at all.

Pressure vessels are not cookie cutters, they're serious and dangerous equipment.  You can't just weld, put inside the furnace and attach a few thermocouples…….. and be done…

I'm attached to this forum for last 10 years and have initiated and contributed many in-depth  technical issues.

If you're interested to know something, let me know. I'll gladly  help you.

Thanks.

 

P.Goswami.P.Eng, IWE.

Independent  & Consulting Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pradip-goswami-2999855/

Email:pgoswami@rogers.com,pradip.goswami@gmail.com

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From: Sourav Bohrays <souravbohrays@gmail.com>
Sent: July 18, 2020 7:53 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:31152] CS with Duplex SS (S31803) clad vessel PWHT?

 

i am not getting why you are sooo afraid of cladding with cs .you have to do nothing especial for this simply put your job in  close furnance and attached weld but remember if u are attaching thermocouple inside of vessel also than dont weld it at ss plate ,attach it at weld.i i did firing in furnace not inside the remember if its not clad than i have a option of inside firing of vessel

 

On Sat, 18 Jul 2020, 8:01 am , <pgoswami@rogers.com> wrote:

A few questions on this interesting  topic  as well as  on the suggestions imparted as below.

 

• How  do you perform local PWHT on a fully fabricated pressure vessel? If that's the case , every weld joint (L-Seam, C-Seam, Nozzle Welds ) has to be individually wrapped by heating coils. Is that possible  after fabrication of entire vessel?
• Restoration of Duplex clad is usually done after barrier layer by 309L.  2209 electrode/filler  may be used  also right from the first layer for restoration of clad.  
• PWHT of 51 mm thick Duplex clad vessel would encompass the following PWHT cycle easily:-

1. Ambient to 300 Deg C-Unlimited heating, 300 Deg C /Hr. Hold at 300 Deg c for uniform equalization of  temperature
2. From 300 Deg C to 600 Deg C – ROH 40-50 Deg C /Hr- would involve- easily 4 hrs of heating cycle
3. Soak 2 600-620 Deg C- for 2 hrs easily

Hence depending on the size of the vessel, a heating cycle of 7-8 hrs easily would be required between 300- Deg C  to 600 Deg C. Same would be case for cooling . Hence a PWHT .stress relief temperature @ 600 Deg C  could be quite harmful. Typically 300-700 Deg C is the formation range of various intermetallic phases for Duplex S.S.

 

It would be nice to know the decision taken by the originator of this query , for education of all concerned.

 

Thanks.

P.Goswami.P.Eng, IWE.

Independent  & Consulting Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pradip-goswami-2999855/

Email:pgoswami@rogers.com,pradip.goswami@gmail.com

Cell/Whasapp:1-905-9793232

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Customer Care
Sent: July 11, 2020 10:13 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [MW:31136] CS with Duplex SS (S31803) clad vessel PWHT?

 

Hi,

You can realize the dissimilar welding (CS 516 Gr.70) + Cladding (S31803) with PWHT following these steps:

-As the base metal of CS have 51 mm of thickness, apply preheating about 175 °C and maintain it during the welding.   Use filler for CS type E/7018 (depending welding process).

 

-Buttering the CS with austenitic filler metal (e.g., E/309L) and remove clad S31803 with grinding, 2" side and side of the weld joint. Realize localized PWHT over the weld metal and HAZ only, about 625 °C during one and half hours.

             - Weld the S31803 clad using duplex filler like E/2209.

 

Ramon Briceno

Senior Metallurgical Engineer / Oil & Gas

 

 

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From: Materials & Welding
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:42 AM
To: Materials & Welding
Subject: [MW:31131] CS with Duplex SS (S31803) clad vessel PWHT?

 

ASME Sec VIII div1

SA516 Gr 70 - 51mm thickness+S31803 clad

 

any experience on duplex clad vessel PWHT?

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