RE: [MW:31232] Combination of PQRs

Kiran,

As I said before, HIC Testing is not MANDATED by ASME Sec-IX or any API, NACE specification. Does the project specification call for HIC testing during PQR qualification stage?  HIC testing is typically mandated for raw materials , e.g. plates, pipe, line pipes etc. Look at NACE TM-0284 . What's the component pressure vessel or  line pipe?

If your organization has done HIC testing  on PQR  coupons, you may use this result as a supplementary information over and above the PQR qualified with PWHT. Combination of PQR is allowed in ASME Sec-IX

Hope it clarifies you doubt. Also please scan and share your project requirements?

 

Thanks.

 

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kiran Ekbote
Sent: July 29, 2020 1:53 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:31231] Combination of PQRs

 

Dear Sir,

 

Thanks for your response.

 

Sorry I am not able to understand your answer.

 

You mean that PQR can be separately included, there will be no issues right. 

 

I will explain to you in detail.

 

I have one WPS and with two PQR's.

 

one PQR with PWHT and second PQR we prepared an additional test coupon for the HIC test only.

 

And HIC  PQR has tested accordingly NACE MR 103 , API(RP-582), and NACE TM -0284, but in PQR we have not conducted mechanical, PWHT, and other tests.

 

If we have two PQR , so according to ASME Sec.IX we have to combine both PQR in WPS, with all essential variables.  

 

Please give me your response immediately, because my document is under hold.

 

Thanks 

Kiran

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:20 AM <pgoswami@rogers.com> wrote:

Hello KK,

HIC testing usually does not apply for   procedure qualification according to Sec-IX or even  as per oil and gas industry standards, say NACE MR 103 , API(RP-582). Common industry document for HIC testing is NACE TM -0284, which calls for HIC testing on parent metals, plates/ pipes etc.

 

How does this idea of HIC testing originate? Is it possible for you to share any specific or relevant document?

 

Thanks.

 

P.Goswami.P.Eng, IWE.

Independent  & Consulting Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of K K
Sent: July 28, 2020 2:24 AM
To: Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MW:31226] Combination of PQRs

 

Hi,

 

Yes, Piping requirements.

 

SA 516 gr 60/70. and according to ASME Sec.IX and ASME B31.3.

The main PQR is qualified with PWHT, but not HIC tested.

And I have additional PQR with HIC tested, but not qualified with PWHT, and no other lab test reports like a mechanical test, bend test, and hardness test report, shall I combined this PQR to my WPS.

 

Please looking you feedback.

Thanks 

Kiran

 

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 10:12:01 AM UTC+5:30, Sudhakar Kuppuswamy wrote:

Hi,

 

Please specify the material grade and the design code. 

 

As you have mentioned Line class, I presume you are talking about piping . 

 

Regards 

Sudhakar K 

 

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:33 AM, K K <kara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Experts,

 

"Good Morning"

 

According to my line classes, I required NACE+HIC+PWHT Wet H2 services.

What is the test shall be conducted according to the standard to meet the requirements?

 

I have one PQR with NACE+PWHT+Wet H2S services, but not HIC test.

In addition, I have qualified one HIC tested PQR without PWHT no other lab test certificates, shall I combined this PQR to the above requirements( NACE+HIC+PWHT+wet H2S).

For your information, the HIC test is an additional requirement of our specifications.

Please looking your feedback on my above query.

 

Thanks and Regards

Kiran

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