Tuesday, January 1, 2013

RE: [MW:16398] Stress Relieving heat treatment of Monel 400

Hello Sanjay,
 
Are  these vessels intended for HF -Alkylation units in petroleum refineries?? The purpose of the HF alkylation unit is to convert butylene, propylene, and isobutene to high-quality motor fuel alkylate.

Due to their inherent resistance  against HF, Monel 400  is a popular alloy  for any HF service. However highly stressed Monel components are  susceptible to HF stress corrosion cracking. During  fabrication and operation, it's recommended that  care is  taken to maintain low stress levels by not overloading or by post weld heat treating the as-fabricated components. In the service environment the  presence of oxygen  increases the likelihood of cracking Alloy 400 containing high tensile stresses resulting from cold work or weld fabrication, particularly when exposed to HF vapor. A stress relieving heat treatment  should  be used to provide better resistance to cracking of Alloy 400 in HF service.

If you look at the industry documents it is pretty much across the board , that  a stress relieving heat treatment is advisable for fabricated monel components, either as clad  vessels  or  formed components in solid piping. This is again the decided by the process designer.

In your case if your organization is fabricating the equipments , then PWHT  yes or no should be as per the OEM/Project specifications' requirement.

Monel  clad vessels could be fired for PWHT  in normal gas fired furnace, however low residual sulfur in the firing  gas is recommended, otherwise model may get embrittled.

You would more details in  of API RP-751-Safe Operation of Hydrofluoric Acid Alkylation Units.
 
Thanks 
 

Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE

Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

Ontario, Canada.

Email-pgoswami@sympatico.ca,

pgoswami@quickclic.net

 


From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of c sridhar
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:09 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:16396] Stress Relieving heat treatment of Monel 400


Mr.Sanjay,

Welded MONEL alloy 400 components normally go into service as welded. If there is a concern that the
environment could induce stress corrosion cracking (e.g, steam containing ammonia), the structure could
be stress relieved by heat treatment at 620 0 C to 760 0 C. It could be done by using LPG pumping,
Electrical Resistance heating, Furnace  etc.

Sridhar
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From:
Rajagopal Kannan <rajagopal.kannan@gmail.com>
To: "materials-welding@googlegroups.com" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 31 December 2012 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:16392] Stress Relieving heat treatment of Monel 400

Dear Sanjay,
As per UNF 56 of ASME sec. VIII Div.1, UNS N 04400 is not required to be Post Weld Heat treated.
Thanks and Best Regards,
K.Rajagopal


On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Sanjay Gandhi <sanjayseju88@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
 
Has any body come across requirement of PWHT or stress relieving for Monel 400? I have read some where that Monel 400 material that is to be used in HF acid service, welds must be given stress reliving treatment to minimize the risk of stress corrosion cracking. 
 
I am looking for following information.
1.) Whether post weld heat treatment is necessary for welds of Monel 400 operating in HF service. Any precedence of heat treatment or no heat treatment?
2.) If heat treatment is inevitable, how to carry out heat treatment of complete vessel? Conventional way by heating or any new technique, any specific furnace, any inert gas to be used, etc…
3.) Any cleaning treatment required after heat treatment? What is the effective method of cleaning?  
 
I would highly appreciate your inputs on the above. We have got two Monel 400 vessels to be used in HF services.
 
 
Regards,
 
Sanjay Gandhi
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