Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Re: [MW:13943] Painting before pressure test on pipings - B 31.3

Hi all,

Thanks for your valuable comment and now i am more clear with the particular section.

Regards,
Madhan



On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:33 PM, DOKKU AJAY <akdd83@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
 
The statement "except that joints previously tested in accordance with this Code may be insulated or covered" means that if the piping is already leak tested before i.e. at a fabircation shop or at site prior to assembly, then the joints can be insulated or covered. Please note that here the code is not talking about the priming and painting. It's only about the insulatioin or covering.
 
The second statement " All joints may be primed and painted prior to leak testing unless a sensitive leak test (para. 345.8) is required." means that the joints may be primed and painted which are subjected to initial (first time) leak testing subjected to the applicability of sensitive leak test.
 
 
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Subject: Re: [MW:13936] Painting before pressure test on pipings - B 31.3

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On 18-Mar-2012, at 6:42 AM, madhan chozhan <madhanchozhan@gmail.com> wrote:

Gents,

Good day.

I need to know whether leak test (hydro or pneumatic) can be done on piping after painting is done on the welds of pipe line?

ASME B 31.3 says "345.3 Preparation for Leak Test
345.3.1 Joints Exposed. All joints, welds (including
structural attachmentwelds to pressure-containing components),
and bonds shall be left uninsulated and
exposed for examination during leak testing, except that
joints previously tested in accordance with this Code
may be insulated or covered. All joints may be primed
and painted prior to leak testing unless a sensitive leak
test (para. 345.8) is required."

"345.8 Sensitive Leak Test
The test shall be in accordance with the Gas and Bubble
Test method specified in the BPV Code, Section V,
Article 10, or by another method demonstrated to have
equal sensitivity. Sensitivity of the test shall be not less
than 10−3 atm·ml/sec under test conditions.
(a) The test pressure shall be at least the lesser of
105 kPa (15 psi) gage or 25% of the design pressure.
(b) The pressure shall be gradually increased until a
gage pressure the lesser of one-half the test pressure or
170 kPa (25 psi) is attained, at which time a preliminary
check shall be made. Then the pressure shall be gradually
increased in steps until the test pressure is reached,
the pressure being held long enough at each step to
equalize piping strains"

here text in green says it shall be left uncovered expect that joints previously tested in accordance with this code(which test to be done for exception and where it is mentioned on code?) but the text in red says it may be primed and painted which looks controversial, kindly advice me what to follow.



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Thanks & Regards
Srirammadhan
Piping/painting inspector
Great drill Chaaya
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