Saturday, April 30, 2011

RE: [MW:10895] Comparison of Large Dia Flanges (B16.47 series A & B) in Refinery services

Dear Krishnakumar,
 
I addition to below valuable information here are some more important points to consider.
 
1) For process piping ( services you mentioned) normally Series A flanges been used. Series A flanges are heiver in weight with more no of bolts and in continuation of ASME B16.5.
2) For CWS you can use series B flanges since they are compact and light weight and hence more economical.
3) For the compatibility purpose you need to check existing flanges series.
 
 
Please do not mix series A flanges with Series B flanges, otherwise it will be a big mess. Hope the above information will be helpfull for you.
 
Regards.
 
Hafiz Ali Alvi
 

Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:54:38 -0700
From: poojvin@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MW:10888] Comparison of Large Dia Flanges (B16.47 series A & B) in Refinery services
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

Dear Mr Krishnakumar,

 

To standardize the pipe flanges for sizes NPS 26 to NPS 60 for class 75 through to Class 1500 ASME B 16.47 was developed . At that time it was decided to include the flange dimensions as per MSS SP 44 flanges except Class 75 which are ASME/API 605 flanges. Since the dimension of these two classes of flanges were not compatible with each other it was decided that  MSS SP 44 flanges are B 16.47 Series A flanges and  API 605 flanges are designated as B 16.47 Series B flanges.

 

Standards followed:

  • ASME B 16.5 : UP TO SIZE NPS 24
  • ASME B16.47 SR.A / SR.B : UP TO SIZE NPS 60 (for rating150& 300)
  • AWWA C-207 : UP TO SIZE NPS 144 (without Hub) & UP TO SIZE NPS 96 (With Hub) - Pls. refer this standard while giving reference of this for any size.

Other member may offer their comment, 

 

Vinod

--- On Fri, 4/29/11, Krishnakumar M S <krishnakumarms01@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Krishnakumar M S <krishnakumarms01@yahoo.com>
Subject: [MW:10880] Comparison of Large Dia Flanges (B16.47 series A & B) in Refinery services
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 29, 2011, 10:46 AM

Hi,

I have to use 30", 42", 48" pipes in Cude Oil, Naphtha, HSD and CRWS services.
What is the criteria between the series A & B for ASME B16.47. Regarding no. of bolts, enonomy, availability etc.
If anyone to know this please.

Regards

Krishnakumar
Fact Engineering & Design Organisation (FEDO)
Cochin, India

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