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Re: [MW:30678] Production test coupon

Kindly check UCS-66 for impact exemption i n ASME SECTION VIII DIV.1 Product-SA 516 pressure vessel   Ihsan Kareem Anjum API Inspector API 653, API 510 and 570 ASNT LEVEL ll +92-3346985641 +92-3036593031 On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:26 AM 'GENE MATSKO' via Materials & Welding < materials-welding@googlegroups.com > wrote:                                                                                                         ASME SECTION VIII DIV.1 Product-SA 516 pressure vessel Field Test Coupon Procedure:  Simply take test coupons onto scaffold near the actual field weld. The test coupons must be of the same material and type etc and backed up with documentation. Set up test coupon in same position as actual field weld.This was the way we done production test coupons in the past for ASME-Section VIII, DIV I when required.  I hope this helps                                                                                Gene Matsko ...

Re: [MW:30677] Production test coupon

                                                                                                        ASME SECTION VIII DIV.1 Product-SA 516 pressure vessel Field Test Coupon Procedure:  Simply take test coupons onto scaffold near the actual field weld. The test coupons must be of the same material and type etc and backed up with documentation. Set up test coupon in same position as actual field weld.This was the way we done production test coupons in the past for ASME-Section VIII, DIV I when required.  I hope this helps                                                        ...

Re: [MW:30668] Chemical analysis mentioning in WPS and PQR for hard facing overlay weld

Chemical analysis is not mandatory in PQR unless it is mentioned in WPS before PQR Qualification. Whatever the elements mentioned in WPS, it should be done in PQR. Ref QW 216.  On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 5:36 pm , < sathishmech04@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Experts Process:PTAW MATERIAL GRADE:P.NO.1,8,5A,15E Hard facing overlay welding 4 to 5mm welded and machined to 1.6mm. Found hardness and macro examination cleared QW-216.4. It defines that chemical analysis nominally matching the weld deposit chemical analysis may be substituted to qualify the PQR. Can anyone explain this meaning? Recently I have qualified hard facing weld overlay. In that during chemical analysis I have got C, Si, Mn, P, S, Cr, Mo, Ni, W, Fe and CO chemical elements. So actual attained chemical composition I have mentioned in PQR. During WPS preparation I have mentioned only nominal chemical elements i.e., Co, Cr, W, C only as explained in the QW-216.4. But my TPI agency is opposing my prepared WPS....

Re: [MW:30668] RT film size required

There is no requirement for width.  There is no requirement for the length of a single film. There is a requirement for the minimum length to be radiographic in case of spot RT (read UW-52). Each one welder's job has to be RTed. One spot for each 15 meters of weld has to be RTed. The min length of the spot is 150 mm Στις Πέμ, 19 Μαρ 2020 στις 1:10 μ.μ., ο/η 'anand gupta' via Materials & Welding < materials-welding@googlegroups.com > έγραψε: Dear all Please confirm the width of RT film as per ASME Sec VIII.  Regards  A p gupta  Baroda  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://g...

Re: [MW:30668] IS2062E250 WPS FOR IS2062E350

IS2062 E250 is assigned to P-No1, Grp No 1 (see Non Mandatory App. D of the Section IX) However, there is no P-No assigned to E350, so  you need a new PQR Στις Πέμ, 19 Μαρ 2020 στις 2:53 μ.μ., ο/η Somnath Ashtakar < s.ashtakar@gmail.com > έγραψε: Hi, We have qualified WPS as per ASME SEC IX for material IS 2062 E250 material , now we want to weld material IS2062 E350 material, Can we use the same WPS ? as IS 2062 E250 - Tensile strength - 410 MPA &  IS2062 E350 - Tensile strength - 490 MPA Please suggest your views.. Urgent. -- Thanks and Regards, Somnath Ashtakar -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.c...

Re: [MW:30668] Chemical requirement of hardfacing weld(ER CoCr-A) on 1.6mm

When ASME BPVC Is applicable then: 1. The minimum thickness of hardfacing has to be specified in the WPS The minimum thickness depends on which surface the chemical analysis or hardness test is conducted. You should read the Notes on Fig. QW-462(s) 2. There is no limit to the max thickness that can be used in production 3. The Chemical analysis has to be defined in the WPS. ASME does not impose any ranges/ In ASME it is not mandatory to specify a chemical analysis in the WPS, but if specified it has to be checked. However, the Classification of the filler metal is an essential variable, contrary to the ordinary welding (read QW-404.12) Στις Τρί, 24 Μαρ 2020 στις 6:33 π.μ., ο/η SURESH < qms.pjgpl@gmail.com > έγραψε: Dear Experts Please through your view on below subject 1.What will be the qualification range, when a PQR is made by hardfacing weld(ER CoCr-A) on 1.6mm base to weld 2. What is the standard reference? 3. What is the Fe range allowed? 4. If range specified in WPS with l...

Re: [MW:30668] Production test coupon

In relation to which Code/Standad? For what kind of product? Pressure Vessel? Power boiler part? Στις Σάβ, 28 Μαρ 2020 στις 9:01 π.μ., ο/η Sachin Dhiman < sachin.dhimanet@gmail.com > έγραψε: Dear experts  I want to know about PTC in detail , when it's required, what's the relation b/w impact exemption and PTC Thanks in Advance -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/e72df23d-6198-45b2-94f7-5485c4dd3b6d%40googlegroups.com . -- Dr. Georgios Dilintas, Dipl. Ing. In Aeronautic and Space Engineering Ph.D in Mechanics of Solids - Computational Mechanics A.I.S, A.N.I, IRCA L...

Re: [MW:30668] TPI approval on WPS

When PED (2014/68/EU) is applicable yes (see Annex I - 3.1.2), the NoBo has to approve the WPS,. When ASME is applicable No. In ASME the manufacturer certifies the PQR, the WPS not Στις Σάβ, 21 Μαρ 2020 στις 6:04 π.μ., ο/η Venkat Ramana < venkatgps.ramana@gmail.com > έγραψε: Dear Experts, My query is that, is there any mandatory by TPI approval (Seal and Sign) on every WPS ?? even though they have already sign into the supporting PQR'S.... KINDLY CLARIFY WITH RELEVANT CODES AND STANDARDS. Thanks & Regards Venkat +91 9676061257 -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/CAHAX...

Re: [MW:30668] Chemical analysis mentioning in WPS and PQR for hard facing overlay weld

Your TPI is right, read the Code: (d) When a chemical composition is specified in the WPS, chemical analysis specimens shall be removed at locations specified in Figure QW-462.5(b) or Figure QW-462.5(e). The chemical analysis shall be performed in accordance with Figure QW-462.5(a) and shall be within the range specified in the WPS. This chemical analysis is not required when a chemical composition is not specified on the WPS. If you specify the chemical analysis in the WPS then you have to confirm by testing that you achieved what you have specified in the WPS. So read the Code carefully otherwise you shoot on your own legs Στις Κυρ, 29 Μαρ 2020 στις 3:06 μ.μ., ο/η < sathishmech04@gmail.com > έγραψε: Dear Experts Process:PTAW MATERIAL GRADE:P.NO.1,8,5A,15E Hard facing overlay welding 4 to 5mm welded and machined to 1.6mm. Found hardness and macro examination cleared QW-216.4. It defines that chemical analysis nominally matching the weld deposit chemical analysis may ...

Re: [MW:30668] Difficulty in interpretation of ASME sec IX QW403.9

This is an essential variable and must be addressed in WPS of the following processes: SMAW SAW GMAW & FCAW ESW EGW a YES or NO has to be entered in the WPS if any of the above processed is involved.  Στις Σάβ, 28 Μαρ 2020 στις 9:01 π.μ., ο/η Mohamed Elsayed < moemagidy@gmail.com > έγραψε: Thank you for the informative response.  On Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:57:39 UTC-5, gerr...@yahoo.com wrote: QW 403.9 states that if any weld pass in Single or Multi pass weld exceeds 13 mm (height of each individual pass) then the Base metal thickness beyond  1.1 times the Qualification thickness is an essentail variable that is for any change in Qualification Thickness beyond 1.1 T you need to qualify a new procedure.   Normally in SMAW,GTAW, GMAW,FCAW and mostly SAW you don't exceed 13mm of the weld metal thickness for each pass but mostly in Electrogas and Electroslag welding the Thickness exceeds 13 mm.   Thanks & Regards J.Gerald Jayakumar 00968-99438165 From: Mauli...

[MW:30667] Chemical analysis mentioning in WPS and PQR for hard facing overlay weld

Dear Experts Process:PTAW MATERIAL GRADE:P.NO.1,8,5A,15E Hard facing overlay welding 4 to 5mm welded and machined to 1.6mm. Found hardness and macro examination cleared QW-216.4. It defines that chemical analysis nominally matching the weld deposit chemical analysis may be substituted to qualify the PQR. Can anyone explain this meaning? Recently I have qualified hard facing weld overlay. In that during chemical analysis I have got C, Si, Mn, P, S, Cr, Mo, Ni, W, Fe and CO chemical elements. So actual attained chemical composition I have mentioned in PQR. During WPS preparation I have mentioned only nominal chemical elements i.e., Co, Cr, W, C only as explained in the QW-216.4. But my TPI agency is opposing my prepared WPS. That they are telling to put all the elements in WPS. I have argued them that this is the nominal chemical elements important for hard facing. However I have tested in 1.6mm after weld to the machined surface. So Fe comes to 5 to 10%. However I have clea...

[MW:30665] Production test coupon

Dear experts I want to know about PTC in detail , when it's required, what's the relation b/w impact exemption and PTC Thanks in Advance -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/e72df23d-6198-45b2-94f7-5485c4dd3b6d%40googlegroups.com .

Re: [MW:30665] Difficulty in interpretation of ASME sec IX QW403.9

Thank you for the informative response.  On Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:57:39 UTC-5, gerr...@yahoo.com wrote: QW 403.9 states that if any weld pass in Single or Multi pass weld exceeds 13 mm (height of each individual pass) then the Base metal thickness beyond  1.1 times the Qualification thickness is an essentail variable that is for any change in Qualification Thickness beyond 1.1 T you need to qualify a new procedure.   Normally in SMAW,GTAW, GMAW,FCAW and mostly SAW you don't exceed 13mm of the weld metal thickness for each pass but mostly in Electrogas and Electroslag welding the Thickness exceeds 13 mm.   Thanks & Regards J.Gerald Jayakumar 00968-99438165 From: Maulik Dodiya < maulik...@gmail.com > To: material...@ googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:03 AM Subject: [MW:17461] Difficulty in interpretation of ASME sec IX QW403.9 Dear Sirs,   I am not getting what exactly ASME Sec IX QW403.9 suggests. Can anybody help me understa...

Re: [MW:30662] TPI approval on WPS

Nice explanation , Mr Ramesh On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 08:37, Ramesh < rameshkannandevaraj@gmail.com > wrote: Each organisation can certify WPS/PQR. refer ASME Sec-IX- QW 201,  TPI review/witness is NOT mandatory, TPI review / witness is Not code requirements, this is to satisfy customers that they have qualified WPS/PQR  upfront with third party check than vendors own personal.  Also note, code allows SWPS - Prequalified WPS, means u can understand that does not require TPI involvement !  Thanks and Regards Rameshkannan Devaraj "What you have learned is a mere handful; What you haven't learned is the size of the world – Avvaiyar" On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 3:06 PM Kannayeram Gnanapandithan < kgpandithan@gmail.com > wrote: No. TPI can witness PQR and can review WPS. TPI can't Certify PQR and can't Approve WPS. In ISO as examining body, they can certify WPQR not WPS.  On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 12:38 pm Venkat Ramana, < venkatgps.ramana@gmail.com >...

RE: [MW:30664] TPI approval on WPS

If you are working to ASME no third party witness is required.  Your Authorized Inspector (AI) will definitely have involvement but they are not required to witness WPS involvement.   If you are working to AWS no third party witness is required.   If you are working to ISO 15614, third party witness by a Notified Body (NOBO) is required.   If you are doing structural work for Canada.   CWB witness is required and a retained Canadian Chartered Engineer is typically also required for companies operating outside of Canada.   If you are interested – my experience – hope it helps.   John   From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Prakash Gotimukul Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:35 AM To: materials-welding Subject: Re: [MW:30663] TPI approval on WPS   For projects in middle east it is almost mandatory that a TPI is used although it is not...

Re: [MW:30663] TPI approval on WPS

For projects in middle east it is almost mandatory that a TPI is used although it is not a code requirement. In other countries u may follow what is prevailing in those countries. Thanks & Rgds. Prakash Gotimukul Authorised Inspection Supervisor AIA LLC TX USA MOB +97155 7114671            +919730039755 On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 13:56 Vinay Thattey < vinay.thattey@gmail.com > wrote: Nice explanation , Mr Ramesh On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 08:37, Ramesh < rameshkannandevaraj@gmail.com > wrote: Each organisation can certify WPS/PQR. refer ASME Sec-IX- QW 201,  TPI review/witness is NOT mandatory, TPI review / witness is Not code requirements, this is to satisfy customers that they have qualified WPS/PQR  upfront with third party check than vendors own personal.  Also note, code allows SWPS - Prequalified WPS, means u can understand that does not require TPI involvement !  Thanks and Regards Rameshkannan Devaraj "What you have learned is a mere handful; What you ha...