Thursday, December 27, 2012

Re: [MW:16345] Reg:Welding of dissimilar thickness joints of dissimilar P-No.


Your query is exactly as same as the below interpretation.



Background:  A procedure qualification test coupon using the same or different P-Number materials and consisting of two plates of different thicknesses, T2 = 1-1/2" thick and T1 = 1" thick welded with a single process.  The thicknesses meet on the same plane with neither plate being tapered.  The joint is welded in accordance with the sketch below.


 (Figure can not be attached; left side plate 1" and right side plate 1.5", not tapered only beveled ends)


 Question (2):  Does this test coupon qualify the WPS for both base metals for a thickness range of 3/16" to 8" on both sides of the weld joint?

 

Reply (2):  Yes.

 

Question (3):  Does this test coupon qualify the WPS for both base metals of different P Numbers for a thickness range of 3/16" to 8"?

 

Reply (3):  No.  QW-202.4 requires both base metal thicknesses be in accordance with QW-451.1.  Base metal T1  is qualified 3/16" to 2" and base metal T2  is qualified 3/16" to 8", except as permitted by QW-202.4(b)(1).

 


QW 202.4 interpretations :


Interpretation: IX-95-12

Subject:            QW-202.4, Dissimilar Base Metal Thicknesses

Date Issued:     March 17, 1995

File No:            95-027

 

Question:  Does QW-202.4 include butt joints and corner joints when joining dissimilar base metal thicknesses when prepared with a groove?

 

Reply:  Yes.



Interpretation: IX-98-20R

Subject:            QW-202.4(b), Dissimilar Base Metal Thickness

Date Issued:     June 8, 2000

File No:            99-539

 

Question:  When welding a corner joint with dissimilar base metal thickness, the thickness of both members must be within the qualified thickness range of the WPS(s) being used.  How is the thickness for the thicker member defined in sketches (a), (b) and (c) below?

 

Reply:  For sketch (a), the thicker of T or ts.  For sketch (b), the thicker of T or ts.  For sketch (c), the thicker of flange a or hub b.


(Figures can not be attached)


Interpretation: IX-01-19

Subject:            QW-202.4(b), Dissimilar Base Metal Thickness

Date Issued:     December 18, 2001

File No:            01-811

 

Question:  Does QW-202.4(b) permit the maximum weld deposit thickness limit to be extended beyond the limit specified in QW-451.1?

 

Reply:  No.  QW-202.4 applies only to the base metal thickness limits.



Interpretation: IX-01-23

Subject:            QW-202.4, Dissimilar Base Metal Thicknesses

Date Issued:     March 11, 2002

File No:            01-789

 

Question:  A WPS is qualified to weld base material from 1.6 mm to 20 mm.  May that WPS be used for welding a part 30 mm thick that has been tapered to 15 mm thick to another 15 mm part?

 

Reply:  Yes.



Subject:            QW-451.1, Procedure Qualification Thickness Limits and Test Specimens and

QW-202.4, Dissimilar Base Metal Thicknesses

Date Issued:     December 22, 2004

File No:            04-599

 

Background:  A procedure qualification test coupon using the same P-Number material and consisting of two plates of different thicknesses are welded together, where the thicker of the two plates (T2 = 1-1/2" thick) has been tapered on a 4:1 taper down to the thinner plate thickness (T1 = 1" thick).

 

Question (1):  Does this test coupon qualify the WPS for a base metal thickness range of 3/16" to 8"?

 

Reply (1):  See Interpretation IX-86-43, Question (2).

 


 

ವಂದನೆಗಳೊಂದಿಗೆ / Best regards,

Nandesh Kumar A

Abu Dhabi, UAE

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--- On Wed, 26/12/12, Ambrish Sivakumar <ambrisiva89@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ambrish Sivakumar <ambrisiva89@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MW:16343] Reg:Welding of dissimilar thickness joints of dissimilar P-No.
To: "kishor kaku" <kkaku067@gmail.com>
Cc: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 26 December, 2012, 2:56 PM

Dear Kishor

How it ll be above 10mm???????

Fillet sizes has to be calculated with ref to the thinner part joined.........
There its 10mm than hw come it possible to exceed that thk?????


Regards
Ambrish


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 3:26 PM, kishor kaku <kkaku067@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ambrish,

Weld metal will be more than 10 mm


Regards


On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Ambrish Sivakumar <ambrisiva89@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Avinash

Simply we can qualify with 70 to 80% of weld metal thickness with
refference to thinner metal joined. i.e if u r welding 10mm to 20mm
means weld thick can be around 7-8mm.


Regards
Ambrish
Sr. Engg. - QA

On 12/24/12, Avinash Pandey <avi7589@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Expert
>
> Please help me out regarding a query.
>
> 1. If I will be welding 10thk # 20thk plate test coupon of P-No.1 and
> P-No.11A than how much base metal as well as weld metal will be qualify.
>
> 2.Please also give me the interpretation for QW.202.4 (Dissimiler metal
> thickness clauses) in simple english, taht will be very helpful to me
>
> Regards
> Avinash Pandey
>
> Trainee
> Welding Dept.
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