Thursday, June 20, 2019

Re: [MW:29733] Difference in ASTM and ASME material

Dear all,

We have a situation that we need to weld cap (material P11) to weldolet with P22 material. Size 2" NPS. Line temp is 560C and pressure 48bar. The rating of the main header is 1500# P22 mtl. Can we weld to the following conditions P11 mtl cap to weldolet P22 mtl. 

On Thu, 20 Jun, 2019, 4:52 AM 'HENNING John' via Materials & Welding, <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

For additional explanation and examples of acceptable material see ASME Section II, Part A, Mandatory Appendix II, Basis for Use of Acceptable ASME, ASTM, and Non-ASTM Editions.  The examples delineated in II-200 (d) may be of some help.  Note that Table II-200-1 lists the construction code acceptability and editions (year) of ASTM specifications that are acceptable.

 

Also note, SA- and SB-, materials are those for which ASME Section II, Part D, code allowable stresses have been determined. 

 

Enjoy.

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PGoswami
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:53 PM
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Subject: RE: [MW:29729] Difference in ASTM and ASME material

 

ASTM is the originator of materials specifications . ASME adopted the ASTM grades for Boiler and Pressure Vessel Industries. In the process of acceptance and adoption some material were accepted as is , some were modified to suit design and application requirements in BPV environments.

Each ASME specification at the very beginning tells what're the differences between this ASME Grade vs the original ASTM grade.

On receipt of materials one should try to match the MTC to the PO requirements and the technical specifications, as sampled below. If the P.O indicates ASME but the vendor supplies ASTM grade, then at least a "Certificate of Conformance"  should be expected at the point of acceptance.

Thanks.

 

P.Goswami.P.Eng, IWE.

Independent Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramin Kondori
Sent: June 18, 2019 9:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [MW:29724] Difference in ASTM and ASME material

 

Not all ASTM materials are qualified as per ASME standards.

Each ASME standard accepts ASTM materials based on the application.

 

Regards

Ramin  Kondori

Sr. QA/QC & Welding Engineer

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:28 PM Pankaj Kolhe <pankaj.kolhe15@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts,

 

what is the difference in ASTM and ASME material. what care should be taken while reviewing MTC, and lab testing.

when can we say this material is acceptable as per ASTM OR ASME?

 

Pankaj

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On Thu, 20 Jun, 2019, 4:52 AM 'HENNING John' via Materials & Welding, <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

For additional explanation and examples of acceptable material see ASME Section II, Part A, Mandatory Appendix II, Basis for Use of Acceptable ASME, ASTM, and Non-ASTM Editions.  The examples delineated in II-200 (d) may be of some help.  Note that Table II-200-1 lists the construction code acceptability and editions (year) of ASTM specifications that are acceptable.

 

Also note, SA- and SB-, materials are those for which ASME Section II, Part D, code allowable stresses have been determined. 

 

Enjoy.

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PGoswami
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:53 PM
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Subject: RE: [MW:29729] Difference in ASTM and ASME material

 

ASTM is the originator of materials specifications . ASME adopted the ASTM grades for Boiler and Pressure Vessel Industries. In the process of acceptance and adoption some material were accepted as is , some were modified to suit design and application requirements in BPV environments.

Each ASME specification at the very beginning tells what're the differences between this ASME Grade vs the original ASTM grade.

On receipt of materials one should try to match the MTC to the PO requirements and the technical specifications, as sampled below. If the P.O indicates ASME but the vendor supplies ASTM grade, then at least a "Certificate of Conformance"  should be expected at the point of acceptance.

Thanks.

 

P.Goswami.P.Eng, IWE.

Independent Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

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Email:pgoswami@quickclic.net,pradip.goswami@gmail.com

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Sent: June 18, 2019 9:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [MW:29724] Difference in ASTM and ASME material

 

Not all ASTM materials are qualified as per ASME standards.

Each ASME standard accepts ASTM materials based on the application.

 

Regards

Ramin  Kondori

Sr. QA/QC & Welding Engineer

-----------------------------------------------------------

PG-Dip. in Welding Engineering (IWE  AT  0070)

BSc. in Civil Engineering (IUT)

BGAS Painting Inspector

ASNT Level I&II

                        

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:28 PM Pankaj Kolhe <pankaj.kolhe15@gmail.com> wrote:

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what is the difference in ASTM and ASME material. what care should be taken while reviewing MTC, and lab testing.

when can we say this material is acceptable as per ASTM OR ASME?

 

Pankaj

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