Materials & Welding: January 2014

Friday, January 31, 2014

Re: [MW:19979] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

Hi Binoy ,

The size of the gauge is decided according to the client specification.As per ASME SEC V, T 1030 and Sec VIII Div 1, UG 102 there is nothing given except the pressure range. Normally a gauge used is 41/2".

Roy

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Tarantula Ghosh <ghosh.tarantula@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Binoy,
Reg. 327, Reg. 328, Reg. 329
PRESSURE GAUGES

Boiler pressure gauges shall not be less than 150 mm in diameter.
But none in ASME Code.
TG

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[MW:19977] Reg.: Calibration Block for UT

Dear Experts,

I would like to know the requirement of calibration Block / Reference Block for Ultrasonic Examination for 100 Dia. Solid Round Bar in welded condition.

Please guide me with reference standard / codes.

Regards.

Alopraj

Re: [MW:19978] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

Hi Binoy,

Reg. 327, Reg. 328, Reg. 329
PRESSURE GAUGES

Boiler pressure gauges shall not be less than 150 mm in diameter.

But none in ASME Code.

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Tarantula

Re: [MW:19976] clarification in flange inspection

RF is d type f end connection.ie.Raised face.125 is pressure class.AARH is the arithmatic average surface roughness.

On Jan 31, 2014 11:44 AM, "smkabeer ahamed" <sm_kabeerahamed@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear sirs,

1.At one purchase order I found FLANGE 6 IN,CLASS BIA,THICKNESS-M#B-16.5 ,MATERIAL A105,300,RF /125 AARH,WN.

RF/125 AARH Means what?

2.PIPE 10 IN,CLASS-B1A,THICK-STD B-36.1,MATERIAL-ASTM A106 GR B,BE SEAMLESS,CORBON STEEL,
I Am not having the above standard can any one tell what is the thickness of the pipe and which page it has given in standard.

Thanking you,
S.M.Kabeer ahamed
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[MW:19973] clarification in flange inspection

Dear sirs,

1.At one purchase order I found FLANGE 6 IN,CLASS BIA,THICKNESS-M#B-16.5 ,MATERIAL A105,300,RF /125 AARH,WN.

RF/125 AARH Means what?

2.PIPE 10 IN,CLASS-B1A,THICK-STD B-36.1,MATERIAL-ASTM A106 GR B,BE SEAMLESS,CORBON STEEL,

I Am not having the above standard can any one tell what is the thickness of the pipe and which page it has given in standard.

Thanking you,

S.M.Kabeer ahamed

QUEST-KALKATA

Re: [MW:19973] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

No specific requirement as per ASME, in general 4" / 6" Dia gauges are
ideal apart from 1.5 to 2 times range.

Cheers
Moloy
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> Dear All is there any requirement given in ASME for the Dia of pressure
> gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test?
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Re: [MW:19975] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

As per API the gauge diameter shall be 4-1/2", and pressure test shall be conducted above 25% & Below 75% of full gauge scale.

Regards,
M.K.Mubeen

From: Shashank Vagal <nach_sam@yahoo.com>
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Date: 31-01-14 08:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MW:19971] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE
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This is an interesting question. But logic dictates that what they display should be easily detectable / visible.
One should direct it to the gauge manufacturing company(ies) on the criteria they use to make their gauges of a particular size?

With Best Regards,
Shashank C Vagal

On Friday, 31 January 2014 9:56 AM, Padmasanker S <padmasanker87@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Refer UG-102 of asme sec VIII div 1 ( for div 1 pressure vessels).
Range of pressure gauge shall be 1.5 to 4 times the test pressure.
Padmasanker.s
Project quality coordinator,
Bilfal heavy industries ltd.
On 30 Jan 2014 14:57, "Binoy Lonappan" <binoypl3@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All is there any requirement given in ASME for the Dia of pressure gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test?

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Re: [MW:19971] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

This requirement covered in Indian Boiler regulation-1950.
Please refer regulation no.327 (e).

On Jan 30, 2014 5:27 PM, "Binoy Lonappan" <binoypl3@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All is there any requirement given in ASME for the Dia of pressure gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test?

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Re: [MW:19971] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

This is an interesting question. But logic dictates that what they display should be easily detectable / visible.

One should direct it to the gauge manufacturing company(ies) on the criteria they use to make their gauges of a particular size?

With Best Regards,

Shashank C Vagal

On Friday, 31 January 2014 9:56 AM, Padmasanker S <padmasanker87@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Refer UG-102 of asme sec VIII div 1 ( for div 1 pressure vessels).

Range of pressure gauge shall be 1.5 to 4 times the test pressure.

Padmasanker.s

Project quality coordinator,
Bilfal heavy industries ltd.

On 30 Jan 2014 14:57, "Binoy Lonappan" <binoypl3@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All is there any requirement given in ASME for the Dia of pressure gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test?

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Binoy Lonappan
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Re: [MW:19970] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

Hi,

Refer UG-102 of asme sec VIII div 1 ( for div 1 pressure vessels).

Range of pressure gauge shall be 1.5 to 4 times the test pressure.

Padmasanker.s

Project quality coordinator,
Bilfal heavy industries ltd.

On 30 Jan 2014 14:57, "Binoy Lonappan" <binoypl3@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All is there any requirement given in ASME for the Dia of pressure gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test?

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Thursday, January 30, 2014

Re: [MW:19966] welding rod for ss 301 and ss321

If you are using TIG process then use the following welding consumables:

ER 308 / ER 308L for SS 301

ER 347 for SS 321

Regards

Prem Nautiyal

Cell: 9769316004

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:06 PM, Touqueer Zaman <zaman@desipower.com> wrote:

We have to weld combustion cone of woody biomass gassifier of Ankur gassifier system. The metals are ss 301 and ss 321. I would like to know the best electrode to weld these meteal.

Re: [MW:19967] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

In my opinion there is no requirement given in ASME Sec VIII Div.1 about the diameter of pressure gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test.

Why don't you refer UG-99.

Regards

Prem Nautiyal

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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:27 PM, Binoy Lonappan <binoypl3@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All is there any requirement given in ASME for the Dia of pressure gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test?

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Binoy Lonappan
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Re: [MW:19968] welder qualification renewal

Rudolf is correct.

As per ASME Sec IX, Only thing you need to check is that the welder has welded the particular process for which he was qualified in the last six months and maintain the Welder Continuity Record for the same.

Regards

Prem Nautiyal

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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:12 PM, Kumar <sk7920541@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all
This means if the welder has performed in the particular processes irrespective of the positions and configurations, his qualifications can be considered as renewed..I think.. (ie..welder had qualified for 6g but done 1g sometimes in 6 month..but still he can be renewed for 6g..) kindly confirm
Thanks in advance,
Kumar.

On Jan 30, 2014 11:24 AM, "veera raghava kommisetti" <kommisetti@gmail.com> wrote:

Only Process matters.. Not weld configuration.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:58 PM, gulrez alam <gulrezhhi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts

Can you explain to me .if any welder is qualified 6 month before with 2 " pipe .but this 6 month the welder is doing only fillet weld .

so i want to know this welder qualification is renew on his continue welding or need to retest.

Best regards

G.Alam
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[MW:19969] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

hi,

not size but range is matter..
40% to 60 of total pressure.

mohd.

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[MW:19965] HYDRO TEST PRESSUREGAUGE SIZE

Dear All is there any requirement given in ASME for the Dia of pressure gauge to be used at the time of Hydro test?

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[MW:19963] DIN 8555 :E 1-UM-250 Vs EN 757: E 69 4Mn 2Ni Cr Mo 12

Dear All,

We are commissioning luffing crane, for the crane we are joining rails.

The rails supplied contractor recommended electrodes on the method statement"DIN 8555 :E 1-UM-250" now the same supplier wants to use EN 757: E 69 4Mn 2Ni Cr Mo 12.

Is both are same?

Regards,

Suresh

[MW:19964] welding rod for ss 301 and ss321

We have to weld combustion cone of woody biomass gassifier of Ankur gassifier system. The metals are ss 301 and ss 321. I would like to know the best electrode to weld these meteal.

Re: [MW:19962] welder qualification renewal

Hi Kumar,

To cut the long story short.

The criteria for renewal is WELDING PRO CESS ONLY.

Position, groove configuration, uphill downhill, with backing without backing, F no used, material used, thickness, etc is not a factor to be considered for renewal, however some clients may ask for proof for renewal in terms of volumetric NDE reports, for groove welders. Hence it is always better to have some back up.

Just my 2 cents.

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On Jan 30, 2014 11:24 AM, "veera raghava kommisetti" <kommisetti@gmail.com> wrote:

Only Process matters.. Not weld configuration.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:58 PM, gulrez alam <gulrezhhi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts

Can you explain to me .if any welder is qualified 6 month before with 2 " pipe .but this 6 month the welder is doing only fillet weld .

so i want to know this welder qualification is renew on his continue welding or need to retest.

Best regards

G.Alam

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Re: [MW:19961] welder qualification renewal

On Jan 30, 2014 11:24 AM, "veera raghava kommisetti" <kommisetti@gmail.com> wrote:

Only Process matters.. Not weld configuration.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:58 PM, gulrez alam <gulrezhhi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts

Can you explain to me .if any welder is qualified 6 month before with 2 " pipe .but this 6 month the welder is doing only fillet weld .

so i want to know this welder qualification is renew on his continue welding or need to retest.

Best regards

G.Alam

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Re: [MW:19960] welder qualification renewal

Only Process matters.. Not weld configuration.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:58 PM, gulrez alam <gulrezhhi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts

Can you explain to me .if any welder is qualified 6 month before with 2 " pipe .but this 6 month the welder is doing only fillet weld .

so i want to know this welder qualification is renew on his continue welding or need to retest.

Best regards

G.Alam

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Re: [MW:19957] RE: 19922] Writing multiple WPSs using single PQR for different processes in AWS D1.1

See file attachment.

For more interpretation: http://www.aws.org/technical/interps/Subject.html

Em 27/01/2014 21:43, "John Henning" <jhenning@deltak.com> escreveu:

No.

See an old AWS D1.1 interpretation, I-9/91-10-03, to whit:

“Inquiry 1 – Can one or more welding process be deleted from a qualified welding procedure in accordance with AWS D1.1 Section 5.5, if each of the essential variables for each of the remaining processes is maintained? . . .

Reply 1 – No. . . . “

Note section number will not agree with current edition – this was written before D1.1 was reorganized. However intent is clear.

John A. Henning

Welding & Materials

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pradip Patil
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:15 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:19922] Writing multiple WPSs using single PQR for different processes in AWS D1.1

Hi,

I have a query regarding AWS D1.1, Does it allow to write separate WPS for the processes qualified on PQR for GTAW + FCAW as like ASME Sec IX?

Can you share the clause number too.

While does any of AWS spec gives guidelines for Inconel 625 Weld overlay for structural parts?

With Regards,

Pradip.
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Wednesday, January 29, 2014

Re: [MW:19957] welder qualification renewal

He is fine. No need to requalify

Gene Matsko

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:01 AM, gulrez alam <gulrezhhi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts

Can you explain to me .if any welder is qualified 6 month before with 2 " pipe .but this 6 month the welder is doing only fillet weld .

so i want to know this welder qualification is renew on his continue welding or need to retest.

Best regards

G.Alam

Re: [MW:19957] welder qualification renewal

It does not matter whether it is a fillet or groove, as long as you can prove that a welder has welded in a particular process he is qualified, his qualification is extended for another 6 months.

Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message --------
From: gulrez alam
Date:29/01/2014 19:58 (GMT+08:00)
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:19951] welder qualification renewal

Dear experts

Can you explain to me .if any welder is qualified 6 month before with 2 " pipe .but this 6 month the welder is doing only fillet weld .

so i want to know this welder qualification is renew on his continue welding or need to retest.

Best regards

G.Alam

Re: [MW:19956] which joint is critical

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any joint who is in load carrying path is critical.

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sajeed zaheer ---29/01/2014 13:44:18---Dear Expert, i wanted to know which joint is crtical either butt joint, fillet joint

From: sajeed zaheer <sajeed7674@gmail.com>
To: "materials-welding@googlegroups.com" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
Date: 29/01/2014 13:44
Subject: [MW:19950] which joint is critical
Sent by: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

Dear Expert,

i wanted to know which joint is crtical either butt joint, fillet joint corner joint or plug joint in structural steel.

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Re: [MW:19954] Welding consumable for cladded plate SA516 Gr70 with SS316

You may use E7018-1 for the CS part and 316 for the SS part. However you have to use a 309 barrier between CS and SS. If you mix 316 with CS you will get hot cracks

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Ansari intekhab alam ---29/01/2014 14:59:34---Dear Ramon Sorry to say but your above providing information is not completely true.

From: Ansari intekhab alam <ansari.ndt@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: 29/01/2014 14:59
Subject: Re: [MW:19953] Welding consumable for cladded plate SA516 Gr70 with SS316
Sent by: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

Dear Ramon
Sorry to say but your above providing information is not completely true.
i don't have t knowledge of piping welds but have well knowledge of ASME Sec VIII Div 1
as per UCS-56 you shall apply PWHT for a butt welds of more than 32 mm thickness ( if preheat is less than 95 Deg ) or more than 38 mm in any case . also all the butt welds shall be 100% radio-graphed for CS materials if thk exceed 32 mm as per UCS-57.

Thanks
Regards
Intekhab Alam Ansari

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:13 AM, ramón ignacio briceño <bricenori@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Thuan,

All CS equipment fabricated by welding following a PWHT after the welding if the base material thickness is more than 25 mm by plate or 19 mm by piping. ASME Section VIII-UG Part give you information about the form that you can apply the PWHT.

Regards,

Ramon Briceno

Metallurgicla Engineer.

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materials-welding@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: [MW:19912] Welding consumable for cladded plate SA516 Gr70 with SS316
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:09:43 +0700

Dear Ramon Briceno,

Thank you so much for your information,

Yes, the ER-309 is intersection between CS Vs SS then after ER-316L for cladding..

How about PWHT for thickness over 30mm CS?

Regards,

Thuan, Vu Duc

Mobil: +84 983 017 936

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ramón ignacio briceño
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:32 AM
To: materials
Subject: RE: [MW:19908] Welding consumable for cladded plate SA516 Gr70 with SS316

Dear Thuan,

According your requirement of cladding SA516-70 / SS316, begin the work of "buttering" with ER-309 filler to facilitate the microstructural transition between CS vs SS. This "buttering" can be 1 mm thickness and following use ER-316L filler to end up with 2 mm thickness. Use SMAW process, and depending of the cladding area to cover, change the aplication by SAW process, then you need a other welding material of common use in SAW process to joint SA516-70 / SS316L.

Regards,

Ramon Briceno

Metallurgical Engineer.

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To:

materials-welding@googlegroups.com

Subject: [MW:19902] Welding consumable for cladded plate SA516 Gr70 with SS316
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:10:55 +0700

Dear Expert ,

We have vessel shell plate A516-Gr 70 cladded with SS316 L, For the plate thickness: 25MM-40MM cladded 3mm.

Could you please advise the filler material selection and welding sequence for LS and CS.

I intend to use welding process FCAW and SAW. Or SMAW and SAW.

Thanks and Best regards,

Regards,

Thuan, Vu Duc

Mobil: +84 983 017 936

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