Re: [MW:33791] Filler wire Button weld test

Hi Ponni,

Check ASME Sec.II Part C SFA 5.9. Annex Clause A5

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On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 7:17 AM Ponnikumar <k.ponni1994@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi sir,

Except Aramco standard. Can you explain from ASME codes 

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Faisal Quadri <faisalquadri12@gmail.com> wrote:

SAES A 206  Aramco requirement 

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My client inspector told me to do button weld test on plate for filler wire 309L . The dimension are follow as asme sec II c then need to do PMI verification 

My query is any requirements by code for filler wire button test for all filler and electrode and why it required ? 

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Re: [MW:33790] Filler wire Button weld test

Dear 

See how you will ensure at the receiving stage you received the correct alloy material(Consumables) tell me ????

The weld button is like a test coupon where the PMI probe can easily seat and you can verify the chemistry.

I am working on ARAMCO specs, for us it's mandatory requirement

due to PMI prob inaccessibility on material like consumables and weld , weld button is alternate, in Aramco Spec

check ASME /ASTM for PMI requirements.

Faisal. Q

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My client inspector told me to do button weld test on plate for filler wire 309L . The dimension are follow as asme sec II c then need to do PMI verification 

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Re: [MW:33788] Filler wire Button weld test

Dear Gents,

This is client spec requirements in most of the companies, as per KOC , we generally do button test

To confirm chemical composition of low alloy and high alloys electrodes per heat.

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Dear gentlemen,

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[MW:33783] MPI-Yoke method on PSV springs

Hello Everyone,

Is it practical to do MPI-yoke method on PSV springs for crack testing.

We do not have a headshot setup and at max we do a spring or two a day.

What are the problems i can face like accuracy etc ? The main aim of this is to check for cracks as these are in service springs taken out during overhaul of the valves.

Advice on this would be much appreciated

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Re: [MW:33783] Orifice Flange and run pipe mismatch

Dear Sirs,

                   The joint type is incorrect. Being an orifice flange for the location, the required flow should be attained per the design.  This type of joint may bring a pressure drop in that particular section. If the pipe size is correct, you are permitted to machine the length of the hub to fit. Ensure minimum flow for the location.

Thanks,

Kind Regards,

G. Gughan

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 10:10 AM 'AGUSTIN JIMENEZ' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I recommend you machine the neck of the flange and take it to the same size, the neck will be shorter but thicker.

Atentamente

Agustin Jimenéz

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El martes, 22 de noviembre de 2022, 11:06:39 p. m. CST, M.Sathiya Narayanan <gmvsathya@gmail.com> escribió:

Hi dear

This shows people's and quality systems to be evaluated and improved, 

Responsibility matrix should be aligned with quality systems

For the findings 

In general this kind of joint not acceptable because of welding, weld joint NDT, stress, corrosion, piping, instrumentation point of view also 

for the worst condition 

Below teams shall be involved to discussed about how to over come 

Welding

Piping

Instrumentation

Corrosion

Stress 

Regards

Sathiyanarayanan

On Tue, 22 Nov, 2022, 10:26 am Anthony Dalisay, <anthonydalisay6@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

Greetings to all of you.

We got a situation in the project where the following observation has been found.

1. pipe - CS 10" dia.

2. orifice flange SS - 10" dia. - Flange has a long protrusion of the neck towards the bevel end that gets inside the pipe. see attached picture - red mark is where the pipe ends landed.

The joint has been welded with the result as shown in the picture below.

The decision is to weld the pipe despite the overlap. The production proceeded the welding activity without trimming the flange end (by machining or grinding as we suggested) to meet the same surface level of the run pipe. After welding the joint went thru RT and passed the test. 

We consulted the design engineer for this reason but no concrete decision was made so the client production team gave final disposition to proceed with welding.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter. What do you think? what would be your recommendation? what problem do you think this would bring in the plant operation? did you ever encounter the same issue before? if so, what did you do? if not, what would you have done differently?

Best Regards,

Anthony D. Dalisay

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Re: [MW:33783] Filler wire Button weld test

Hi sir,

Except Aramco standard. Can you explain from ASME codes 

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Faisal Quadri <faisalquadri12@gmail.com> wrote:

SAES A 206  Aramco requirement 

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Dear gentlemen,

My client inspector told me to do button weld test on plate for filler wire 309L . The dimension are follow as asme sec II c then need to do PMI verification 

My query is any requirements by code for filler wire button test for all filler and electrode and why it required ? 

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Re: [MW:33783] Filler wire Button weld test

Hi

There are NO code requirements for button weld test. Kindly review project specification or ask the client the reason for the button weld test. Maybe he has a doubt about the electrode or something like this.

Regards 

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 1:05 PM Faisal Quadri <faisalquadri12@gmail.com> wrote:

SAES A 206  Aramco requirement 

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Dear gentlemen,

My client inspector told me to do button weld test on plate for filler wire 309L . The dimension are follow as asme sec II c then need to do PMI verification 

My query is any requirements by code for filler wire button test for all filler and electrode and why it required ? 

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Re: [MW:33782] Filler wire Button weld test

SAES A 206  Aramco requirement 

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Dear gentlemen,

My client inspector told me to do button weld test on plate for filler wire 309L . The dimension are follow as asme sec II c then need to do PMI verification 

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[MW:33781] Filler wire Button weld test

Dear gentlemen,

My client inspector told me to do button weld test on plate for filler wire 309L . The dimension are follow as asme sec II c then need to do PMI verification 

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Re: [MW:33778] PQR Qualification

Dear Sir,

My case is the test coupon plates (02 No's) are the same grade : SA 516 Grade 70  65  60 MTLTV

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 2:10 PM Manikandan J <mechmani22@gmail.com> wrote:

P1 G1 to P1 G2 PQR allows to weld  P1 G1,G2 to P1G1, G2 Base Metals

On Mon, 28 Nov, 2022, 6:26 am williams p wilson, <williamswilsonp@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

I have a doubt noted below for your advice.

If I used the Steel Designation SA 516 Grade 70  65  60 MTLTV for procedure qualification. I will be qualified for P1 G 1 / 2   To   P1 G 1 / 2
Single PQR / WPS satisfy my below welding requirements. 

(Toughness & PWHT considered)
1) SA 516 Gr.70 to SA 516 Gr.70
2) SA 106 Gr. B to SA 105
3) SA 106 Gr. B to SA 106 Gr. B

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Re: [MW:33772] 410 WPS PQR

Yes 

Will use based on service conditions

Thanks 

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On 28-Nov-2022, at 8:56 AM, chandraknat vaidya <vaidyac10@gmail.com> wrote:



Use of 309L weldmetal is appropriate.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 2:21 PM Vishwas Keskar Welding Manager WELDING <vvkeskar123@gmail.com> wrote:

Experts,

Pl. guide for qualifying PQR for SA 240 TYP 410 without PWHT .

Pl, guide for Pre heating, inter pass  temperature, consumable to be used 

Thickness of job is 8 mm , 10mm

Thanks and regards

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Re: [MW:33772] Clarification regarding pwht

Dear sir ,

As my understanding Material will go for Second time PWHT due to repair , In this case please check Simulation Cycle of Raw Material for How many time you can perform PWHT .

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 8:51 AM Uma sankar Sankar <umasankar6246@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts.

                         ASTM A335 P91,Joint welding completed,Rt done ,third party NDT RTFI result RT pass,as per ITP PWHT should be done with in 24 hrs of welding completion,so PWHT done,but Aramco Oid dis agreed with third party Result, result given as repair, Repair done,can we perform PWHT ?if  we do stress release again,is there any specific standard?

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Re: [MW:33772] PQR Qualification

Yes Definitely for PQR.

But you need Separate WPS ...

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 8:56 AM williams p wilson <williamswilsonp@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

I have a doubt noted below for your advice.

If I used the Steel Designation SA 516 Grade 70  65  60 MTLTV for procedure qualification. I will be qualified for P1 G 1 / 2   To   P1 G 1 / 2
Single PQR / WPS satisfy my below welding requirements. 

(Toughness & PWHT considered)
1) SA 516 Gr.70 to SA 516 Gr.70
2) SA 106 Gr. B to SA 105
3) SA 106 Gr. B to SA 106 Gr. B

Thank You & Regards

Williams P Wilson

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[MW:33769] PQR Qualification

Dear Experts,

I have a doubt noted below for your advice.

If I used the Steel Designation SA 516 Grade 70  65  60 MTLTV for procedure qualification. I will be qualified for P1 G 1 / 2   To   P1 G 1 / 2
Single PQR / WPS satisfy my below welding requirements. 

(Toughness & PWHT considered)
1) SA 516 Gr.70 to SA 516 Gr.70
2) SA 106 Gr. B to SA 105
3) SA 106 Gr. B to SA 106 Gr. B

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Williams P Wilson

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[MW:33769] Regarding Storage tank Water Fill Test

Dear All,

Can anyone please explain the water fill test of the storage tank, like if we fill the water upto curb angle and the remaining roof part shall be air tested what will be the pressure.

 According to our drawing the pressure shall be 70 millibar that is equal to 714mm water column is this pressure  too high. It is been re-confirmed with design team and initiated to go ahead

with the same pressure but the contractor insists again and again to verify as per him the pressure is too high.

(Tank Dia 8mtr. Height 9.15mtr)

Any suggestions on this will be appreciated.

Thanks

Manoj Singh

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Re: [MW:33768] FILLER WIRE FOR SS 304 TO SS321

why don't use 321 when TIG is engaged 

On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 8:45 AM M.Sathiya Narayanan <gmvsathya@gmail.com> wrote:

use 347 composition 

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 2:48 PM sujit kumar <sujitkumar19942@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts

what will be the filler wire for SS304 TO SS321 MATERIAL

Best Regards

Sujit

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Re: [MW:33764]

SMAW with E 7018 electrode Or  CO2 Welding.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2022, 13:44 ahmed adil, <ahmed.adil5382@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Vishal

Oxyacetylene welding or Thermit welding are suitable for your job

Best wishes

Ahmed Adil

Welding engineer 

On Mon, 21 Nov 2022, 06:48 Vishal Jaiswal, <vis469jaiswal70@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All, 

Please suggest wihich welding is sutaible for GI flat bar to GI flat bar  used in cable tray and also which WPS is use for 

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[MW:33763] REGARDING DILUTION IN WELD OERLAY

Dear All, 

           Kindly explain the concept of dilution in weld overlay what are its effects in weld overlay or cladding ? what is the significance of barrier layer ?Why barrier layer deposition is required before final layer ?

Rgds

Saurabh Joshi

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[MW:33761] FILLER WIRE FOR SS 304 TO SS321

Dear experts

what will be the filler wire for SS304 TO SS321 MATERIAL

Best Regards

Sujit

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Re: [MW:33760] Orifice Flange and run pipe mismatch

I recommend you machine the neck of the flange and take it to the same size, the neck will be shorter but thicker.

Atentamente

Agustin Jimenéz

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El martes, 22 de noviembre de 2022, 11:06:39 p. m. CST, M.Sathiya Narayanan <gmvsathya@gmail.com> escribió:

Hi dear

This shows people's and quality systems to be evaluated and improved, 

Responsibility matrix should be aligned with quality systems

For the findings 

In general this kind of joint not acceptable because of welding, weld joint NDT, stress, corrosion, piping, instrumentation point of view also 

for the worst condition 

Below teams shall be involved to discussed about how to over come 

Welding

Piping

Instrumentation

Corrosion

Stress 

Regards

Sathiyanarayanan

On Tue, 22 Nov, 2022, 10:26 am Anthony Dalisay, <anthonydalisay6@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

Greetings to all of you.

We got a situation in the project where the following observation has been found.

1. pipe - CS 10" dia.

2. orifice flange SS - 10" dia. - Flange has a long protrusion of the neck towards the bevel end that gets inside the pipe. see attached picture - red mark is where the pipe ends landed.

The joint has been welded with the result as shown in the picture below.

The decision is to weld the pipe despite the overlap. The production proceeded the welding activity without trimming the flange end (by machining or grinding as we suggested) to meet the same surface level of the run pipe. After welding the joint went thru RT and passed the test. 

We consulted the design engineer for this reason but no concrete decision was made so the client production team gave final disposition to proceed with welding.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter. What do you think? what would be your recommendation? what problem do you think this would bring in the plant operation? did you ever encounter the same issue before? if so, what did you do? if not, what would you have done differently?

Best Regards,

Anthony D. Dalisay

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Re: [MW:33759] Orifice Flange and run pipe mismatch

Hi dear

This shows people's and quality systems to be evaluated and improved, 

Responsibility matrix should be aligned with quality systems

For the findings 

In general this kind of joint not acceptable because of welding, weld joint NDT, stress, corrosion, piping, instrumentation point of view also 

for the worst condition 

Below teams shall be involved to discussed about how to over come 

Welding

Piping

Instrumentation

Corrosion

Stress 

Regards

Sathiyanarayanan

On Tue, 22 Nov, 2022, 10:26 am Anthony Dalisay, <anthonydalisay6@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

Greetings to all of you.

We got a situation in the project where the following observation has been found.

1. pipe - CS 10" dia.

2. orifice flange SS - 10" dia. - Flange has a long protrusion of the neck towards the bevel end that gets inside the pipe. see attached picture - red mark is where the pipe ends landed.

The joint has been welded with the result as shown in the picture below.

The decision is to weld the pipe despite the overlap. The production proceeded the welding activity without trimming the flange end (by machining or grinding as we suggested) to meet the same surface level of the run pipe. After welding the joint went thru RT and passed the test. 

We consulted the design engineer for this reason but no concrete decision was made so the client production team gave final disposition to proceed with welding.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter. What do you think? what would be your recommendation? what problem do you think this would bring in the plant operation? did you ever encounter the same issue before? if so, what did you do? if not, what would you have done differently?

Best Regards,

Anthony D. Dalisay

Mobile # +63 9610917840

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