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Re: [MW:12327] Dual Qualification to AWS D1.1 and ASME Sect IX in 6G/6GR Position

Dear Ganesan In general you can qualify welder and welding operator and the procedure with both standards, but about 6GR that is defined in AWD D1.1, this position covers all other positions, but in ASME Sec. IX because you shall mention this position as a special position, the qualification range will be just this position. About the testing according to ASME and AWS, test description and dimension are the same. You have to care just about ranges of qualifications.   Regards On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Ganesan Nallathamby < ganesan6133@hotmail.com > wrote: Dear Experts   I'm not sure if either AWS D1.1 and/or ASME Sect. IX ( both year 2010 )prohibits using PQR qualified to other codes. However ASME do not have any provision for 6GR Position but only recognize "special position" in QW-303.3.   According to AWS D1.1-Note "d" in Table 4.10 & Note "c" in Table 4.1-PQT   Pls refer attached AWS Interpretation I need all you gu...

[MW:12326] Dual Qualification to AWS D1.1 and ASME Sect IX in 6G/6GR Position

Dear Experts   I'm not sure if either AWS D1.1 and/or ASME Sect. IX ( both year 2010 )prohibits using PQR qualified to other codes. However ASME do not have any provision for 6GR Position but only recognize "special position" in QW-303.3.   According to AWS D1.1-Note "d" in Table 4.10 & Note "c" in Table 4.1-PQT   Pls refer attached AWS Interpretation I need all you guidance best method on:- 1 - Qualifying Welding Procedure Qualification to AWS D1.1 & ASME Sect IX in one  Test. ( with/without Impact Energy value ). 2 - Welder Qualification using PQR qualified to AWS D1.1 & ASME Sect IX 3 - Propose to use Dual Codes Qualification in one Welder/Welding Operator's Certificate. And also want to welders using PQR qualified to AWS D1.1 & ASME Sect IX. Weld Process - SMAW , FCAW . GMAW ,  GTAW , SMAW/FCAW, GTAW/SMAW....etc My purpose. 1 - Reduce number of PQR and Welder Qualification 2 - Minimize Certification documenation and nec...

Re: [MW:12325] Code Explanations

Philip, I just finished working on a project with the same material specification (USAN Project) You did not mention the welding process you intend to use as that will determine the choice of consumable. API 2W Gr. 50 (TMCP) is design to have an improved Impact property at low temperature. With reference to your query, 1.       The thickness combination especially the T1 (Bevelled) will be selected in other to cover the thickness ranges in production. If the project specification refers you to AWS D1.1 code as a reference code without additional conditions, then refer to AWS D1.1 table 4.2 for your thickness selection. Using the standard pipe 8" sch. 80/sch. 140 (refer to figure 4.27) will qualify tubular diameter of 4" and above with thickness of 5mm to unlimited, but i know that your client specification might over ride this clause. Note that the thickness selected has little to do with the impact property but rather, your choice of consumable and the welding paramet...

[MW:12324] Code Explanations

Hello Gents,   I want to   carry out  a welding   procedure qualification testing for  wel ding jackets structural member s , the applicable construction code is AWS D1.1. Project  material is API 2W Gr 50 pipe rolled from TMCP plates, and job   maximum thickness is 76.2mm, and project   requires  CVN testing at (-40 ° C) . 1.      W hat will  be  the best combination of thickness ( T1 & T2 ) for the pipe s   to produce a TKY joint that will pass CVN testing at the above job required CVN t esting temperature ?   will PWHT be applicable as per code? Also specify code references. 2.      Will these qualification qualifies welding on API 2MT1 Gr 50  pipes rolled from TMCP plates  with thickness 50.8 mm with CVN requirement of (- 3 0 ° C). 3.        I am required to make  a procedure for weld...

[MW:12323] RE: 12313] change in welding color in Cr Mo V steel

In general   Welders performance tests are governed by codes and prepared in accordance with WPS suitable for the work to be undertaken. Colour change might be suggesting some changes in electrical characteristics, but it certainly is not a base sufficient enough to reject the weld. Kindly apply the requisite tests for the weld in question if visually you are satisfied with the weld.   The acceptance criteria for weld performance test shall apply in deciding the disposition of this weld and the ability of the welder to fabricate a sound weld that meets the requirements of the applicable code.     From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sedef pala Sent: 26 August 2011 07:44 PM To: materials-welding Subject: [MW:12313] change in welding color in Cr Mo V steel   Hi to Everybody, Attached i included two photos from welding (material Cr Mo V steel, process TIG ). As you can see from picture there is change...

[MW:12322] Welding of Galvanized steel

All,   Sharing for knowledge. Pls add to this subject, from your experiance in order to be usefull to many.   Thanks & Regards, Vinod Bhatt -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents.

Re: [MW:12321] Query / Machining of Sch 40 to Sch 30 / 24" RF WN Flange

Is it mean trimmed/chamfered? Code is allowed, you can see the sizes/figure in the B16.5 book, but certain customers require ID of flange same with ID of pipe. Sent from my Hape Buluk® powered by Sinyal Lieur INDOSAT From: Vino Varghese <vinopvarghese@gmail.com> Sender: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:04:12 +0300 To: <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> ReplyTo: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Subject: [MW:12316] Query / Machining of Sch 40 to Sch 30 / 24" RF WN Flange Dear All,   I would like to know whether standard ASME B 16.5 do allow machining of bevel edge to achieve required thickness? The material is  24" WN RF Flange A105 ,Class 150- NACE , Normalised .   We are not able to procure standard fitting and done machining to achieve Sch 30 from Sch 40. Please note, not to entire length . The dimension and thickness is verified and a Certificate of Compliance is produced.   Please advise with evidence(supporting Cod...

Re: [MW:12320] type 3 joint

Pls. refer UW12 . If type 3 joint is less than 24"Dia, efficiency can not be increased by RT Regards, Sasi On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 7:21 PM, imran khan < imransian@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Experts,   I need your urgent attention please   As per UW-12   Type 1........... both side welded butt joint(full radiography) ...........efficiency 1 Type 3............single vee but welded joints(no radiography)...........efficiency 0.60   my question is can i use type 3 joint as type 1 to get higher efficiency say 1.0 if the joint is 100% radiographed. -- With Best Wishes,   Imran Khan   Cell:+966580790536 E-mail: Imransian@gmail.com     -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and m...

Re : [MW:12319] RE: 12305] CD4MC4 matraial

Thank you Pradip for your effort concerning your your research about this material. Really, as I work in the metallurgical and welding field, There is a customer who asked me to suggest him some filler material for welding this material grade CD4MC4. All I know is that material is used for some pump components. On my side, I will continue to find out more about this application. As soon I have the information, I will share it with you.   Thanks again.   Khemici Badri, Ing., M.Ing SODEL De : Muni Andy <cmkfc07@gmail.com> À : materials-welding@googlegroups.com Envoyé le : Samedi 27 Août 2011 8h08 Objet : Re: [MW:12315] RE: 12305] CD4MC4 matraial The material may be CD4MCu.may be u appears is 4 in handwriting. pls check. Muniyandi DNV On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, pgoswami < pgoswami@quickclic.net > wrote: Hello Badri,   What's the ASTM or other material specifications related to CD4MC4 material? I did fairly detai...

Re: [MW:12318] change in welding color in Cr Mo V steel

hi,   As it has a poor weld profile if should be rejected.   Regards --- On Fri, 26/8/11, sedef pala <santasatana@gmail.com> wrote: From: sedef pala <santasatana@gmail.com> Subject: [MW:12313] change in welding color in Cr Mo V steel To: "materials-welding" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> Date: Friday, 26 August, 2011, 11:13 PM Hi to Everybody, Attached i included two photos from welding (material Cr Mo V steel, process TIG ). As you can see from picture there is change in color of the weld.Visualy my interpretation is that welder increaed welding speed (therefore heat input was decreased), in copper colored area he welded more faster and made weld puddles more thick.Where on left side color of the weld pool looks good(similar to base material) and paddles are in range.  My question is " if the weld puddles looks thicker and color is like copper  can it be rejected, especially in welders skill test"? Thanks in advance for any opinion. ...

Re: [MW:12317] change in welding color in Cr Mo V steel

Hii, Color will veries depends on Heat Input ... But your interpretation is not a criterai for Welder Qualification/Skill test ....There will be governing the codes as per project requirement ... We need to Qualify the welders as per Code/Standards .. And the result of Weldabilty will be depends on the Inspection/Testing ...(Not with Color) Thank you Suresh On 8/26/11, sedef pala < santasatana@gmail.com > wrote: > Hi to Everybody, > > Attached i included two photos from welding (material Cr Mo V steel, process > TIG ). As you can see from picture there is change in color of the > weld.Visualy my interpretation is that welder increaed welding speed > (therefore heat input was decreased), in copper colored area he welded more > faster and made weld puddles more thick.Where on left side color of the weld > pool looks good(similar to base material) and paddles are in range. > > My question is " if the weld puddles looks thicker and color is like ...

[MW:12316] Query / Machining of Sch 40 to Sch 30 / 24" RF WN Flange

Dear All,   I would like to know whether standard ASME B 16.5 do allow machining of bevel edge to achieve required thickness? The material is  24" WN RF Flange A105 ,Class 150- NACE , Normalised .   We are not able to procure standard fitting and done machining to achieve Sch 30 from Sch 40. Please note, not to entire length . The dimension and thickness is verified and a Certificate of Compliance is produced.   Please advise with evidence(supporting Code) whether the material could be ACCEPTABLE.   Thanks & Regards Vino-Doha   -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/...

Re: [MW:12315] RE: 12305] CD4MC4 matraial

The material may be CD4MCu.may be u appears is 4 in handwriting. pls check. Muniyandi DNV On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, pgoswami < pgoswami@quickclic.net > wrote: Hello Badri,   What's the ASTM or other material specifications related to CD4MC4 material? I did fairly detailed search  on this material without any success. If you could provide more details it would be appreciated.   See the attached literature from 2 major foundries, all other grades are cast except this.   Appreciate more details from your end.   Thanks.   Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE Welding & Metallurgical Specialist & Consultant Ontario,Canada. Email-pgoswami@ sympatico.ca , pgoswami@quickclic.net   From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto: materials-welding@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of khemici badri Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:13 AM To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Subject: [MW:12305] CD4MC4 matraial Hi everyone;   I would like to...

[MW:12312] RE: 12305] CD4MC4 matraial

Hello Badri,   What's the ASTM or other material specifications related to CD4MC4 material? I did fairly detailed search  on this material without any success. If you could provide more details it would be appreciated.   See the attached literature from 2 major foundries, all other grades are cast except this.   Appreciate more details from your end.   Thanks.   Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE Welding & Metallurgical Specialist & Consultant Ontario,Canada. Email-pgoswami@ sympatico.ca , pgoswami@quickclic.net   From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of khemici badri Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:13 AM To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Subject: [MW:12305] CD4MC4 matraial Hi everyone;   I would like to get some information on the CD4MC4 material. Untill now, I just know the CD4MCu duplex stainless steel grade.   Any comments are appreciat...

Re: [MW:12314] Filler wire for galvanized

Dear All We usually use E6010 for welding Low Alloy galvanized carbon steel pipes (SMAW welding) Regards SAMI --- On Thu, 8/25/11, Vikram Bhat <kvikrambhat@gmail.com> wrote: From: Vikram Bhat <kvikrambhat@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MW:12307] Filler wire for galvanized To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 5:56 PM Gents,   Usually cellulose electrodes are being used in order to get the better penetration of the zinc. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:54 PM, naveed ahmed < naveed_aytb@yahoo.com > wrote: can any body clarify which filler wire is required for welding galvanized pipe ? -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purp...

[MW:12313] change in welding color in Cr Mo V steel

Hi to Everybody, Attached i included two photos from welding (material Cr Mo V steel, process TIG ). As you can see from picture there is change in color of the weld.Visualy my interpretation is that welder increaed welding speed (therefore heat input was decreased), in copper colored area he welded more faster and made weld puddles more thick.Where on left side color of the weld pool looks good(similar to base material) and paddles are in range.  My question is " if the weld puddles looks thicker and color is like copper  can it be rejected, especially in welders skill test"? Thanks in advance for any opinion. -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes ...

Re: [MW:12311] Filler wire for galvanized

Hi, Please find herewith the attached file ,might be useful to you. Thanks & Regards, (Karthik) Karthikeyan.S QA/QC Manager Getabec Energy Co.,Ltd. 379,Moo6,Soi8,Nikhomphatana, Rayong-21180, Thailand. Phone: 0066 38 897035-8 (Off) Fax: 0066 38 897034 Hand Phone: 0066 892512282 --- On Thu, 8/25/11, naveed ahmed <naveed_aytb@yahoo.com> wrote: From: naveed ahmed <naveed_aytb@yahoo.com> Subject: [MW:12303] Filler wire for galvanized To: "materials-welding@googlegroups.com" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 5:54 PM can any body clarify which filler wire is required for welding galvanized pipe ? -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+ unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members per...

Re: [MW:12310] type 3 joint

Yes --- On Thu, 25/8/11, imran khan <imransian@gmail.com> wrote: From: imran khan <imransian@gmail.com> Subject: [MW:12308] type 3 joint To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, 25 August, 2011, 8:51 PM Dear Experts,   I need your urgent attention please   As per UW-12   Type 1........... both side welded butt joint(full radiography) ...........efficiency 1 Type 3............single vee but welded joints(no radiography)...........efficiency 0.60   my question is can i use type 3 joint as type 1 to get higher efficiency say 1.0 if the joint is 100% radiographed. -- With Best Wishes,   Imran Khan   Cell:+966580790536 E-mail: Imransian@gmail.com     -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The...

Re: [MW:12309] type 3 joint

If it's a full penetration weld and you want to do RT1 or RT2 and it is a Longitudinal Seam, you can use 100% Joint Efficiency, If it is a Circ Seam RT1 is 100% and RT2 is 70%     On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:21 AM, imran khan < imransian@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Experts,   I need your urgent attention please   As per UW-12   Type 1........... both side welded butt joint(full radiography) ...........efficiency 1 Type 3............single vee but welded joints(no radiography)...........efficiency 0.60   my question is can i use type 3 joint as type 1 to get higher efficiency say 1.0 if the joint is 100% radiographed. -- With Best Wishes,   Imran Khan   Cell:+966580790536 E-mail: Imransian@gmail.com     -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ Th...

[MW:12308] type 3 joint

Dear Experts,   I need your urgent attention please   As per UW-12   Type 1........... both side welded butt joint(full radiography) ...........efficiency 1 Type 3............single vee but welded joints(no radiography)...........efficiency 0.60   my question is can i use type 3 joint as type 1 to get higher efficiency say 1.0 if the joint is 100% radiographed. -- With Best Wishes,   Imran Khan   Cell:+966580790536 E-mail: Imransian@gmail.com     -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents.

Re: [MW:12307] Filler wire for galvanized

Gents,   Usually cellulose electrodes are being used in order to get the better penetration of the zinc. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:54 PM, naveed ahmed < naveed_aytb@yahoo.com > wrote: can any body clarify which filler wire is required for welding galvanized pipe ? -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ ...

Re: [MW:12306] Filler wire for galvanized

dear , It is difficult to weld galvanized pipe , first you have to grind the ends of the pipe to be welded , you can use E70S3 for carbon steel galvanized pipe ,when zinc burn off it produce smoke, it can cause health risk. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM, naveed ahmed < naveed_aytb@yahoo.com > wrote: > can any body clarify > which filler wire is required for welding galvanized pipe ? > > -- > To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ > The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. > -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this grou...

[MW:12305] CD4MC4 matraial

Hi everyone;   I would like to get some information on the CD4MC4 material. Untill now, I just know the CD4MCu duplex stainless steel grade.   Any comments are appreciated. Thanks in advance.   Badri  

Re: [MW:12304] Filler wire for galvanized

What is the joint type...? Socket weld fittings or thread or but-welding fittings...? Maybe MIG-Brazing is what you need if your application is sealing threaded joints or socket welded fittings (it doesn't remove the Zinc coating) For butt welding joints it may be different... Ramin  Kondori    QC / Welding Engineer           IWE AT 0070      On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, naveed ahmed < naveed_aytb@yahoo.com > wrote: can any body clarify which filler wire is required for welding galvanized pipe ? -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents. -- To ...