Wednesday, April 18, 2018

Re: [MW:27723] impact testing of welding consumable , ASME VIII Div 1

Hi

My understanding about UCS-67(a)(3) as below

Your PQR impact testing may be exempted provided

 1 .Your Filler metal shall be classified by their manufacturer through impact testing at a temperature not warmer than the MDMT 

But, In your case, TC has been reported as -30 Deg C.  You can use these batch consumables up to -30 Deg C MDMT without impact testing ( Not for -45 Deg C MDMT) hence exemption is NOT applicable for you.

 2. Additional testing beyond the scope of the SFA specification may be performed by the filler metal and/or flux manufacturer to expand their classification for a broader range of temperatures  - which is  self-explanatory - you need to have TC for -45 Deg C tested temperature

 Also I have attached some relevant interpretation details for your reference

Official web page for all interpretation available in link below. You may find many interpretation available related to this topic.

<https://cstools.asme.org/Interpretation/SearchInterpretation.cfm>







On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM, gigi <anhtrangnghieng@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Gent,

 

Non- impact tested WPS was used for some weld joint. Question :

·         If welding consumable ER70S-G have been impact tested at –30°C . As per para. UCS-67(a)(3), additional testing ( Impact test ) at –45°C is a requirement when WPS ( No impact test ) used ?

 

 

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Subject: Re: [MW:27708] impact testing of welding consumable , ASME VIII Div 1

 

Hi

You mean , already welded using non-impact tested WPS/PQR ?

 

Your PQR should have been qualified with impact testing, then only para.UCS-67(a) is applicable for u

Seems, your consumable supplier supplied ER 70S-G with guaranteed values up to minus 30 deg C only, which may not suitable for your MDMT, unless tested.

Ask supplier to replace your consumable to meet your service requirements. 

 

As per ASME BPVC.II.C-2017 SFA-5.18/SFA-5.18M,

Impact testing requirements should have been agreed before you place order, since no requirements as per code

 

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  Either case you should have qualified WPS/PQR to meet your service requirements .

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Kannayeram Gnanapandithan <kgpandithan@gmail.com> wrote:

yes


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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Vanchinath S.A. <vanchinaths@gmail.com> wrote:

You have to qualify WPS with impact test at mdmt.

 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 19:10 gigi, <anhtrangnghieng@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts,

 

Please help me to clarify issue as below:

 

Solid rod ER70S-G have been used for weld joints of HP Flare KO Drum by using WPS V02 (GTAW/SMAW – Impact test is not applied). Certificate of welding consumable ER70S-G indicates that impact test temperature is –30°C. Minimum design metal temperature (MDMT) of HP Flare KO Drum is –45°C. Material of HP Flare KO Drum is SA-516 Gr60 normalized.

In accordance with para.UCS-67(a)(3) ASME BPVC.VIII.1-2017 , is it a requirement to perform impact test at –45°C for welding consumable ER70S-G?

 

Thanks

 

Gigi.

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