Saturday, June 29, 2013

Re: [MW:18049] Reg: ASME P Numbers Clarification

Hi
Your grouping is ok. Further Refer ASME IX - QW440/QW442 for weld metal deposite i e A No. This will help you to ASME specification i e  SFA Number selection refer QW432 ( Example if material is carbon steel Refer chapter SFA5.1 Table 7 in ASME II part C matching chemical composition of feller metal)
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Rakesh Kasera
From: ajmlouis <ajmlouis@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2013 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MW:18036] Reg: ASME P Numbers Clarification

ASME P-Numbers

To reduce the number of welding and brazing procedure qualifications required base metals have been assigned P-Numbers by the ASME BPVC.  Ferrous metals which have specified impact test requirements have been assigned Group Numbers within P-Numbers.
These assignments have been based on comparable base metal characteristics, such as:
  •      Composition
  •      Weldability
  •      Brazeabilit
  •      Mechanical Properties
Indiscriminant substitution of materials in a set of P-Numbers or Group Numbers may lead to problems or potentially failures.  Engineering assessment is necessary prior to a change in materials.
When a base metal with a UNS number Designation is assigned a P-Number, then a base metal listed in a different ASME material specification with the same UNS number shall be considered that P-Number.
The table below is a guide and is for instructive purposes only.  Anyone specifying materials or requirements should refer directly to the ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code to specify materials, P-Numbers,  procedures, or other requirements and not rely on the table below.  The table below is only a rather incomplete and approximate summary of ASME data. 
P-Numbers
Base Metal (Typical or Example)
1
Carbon  Manganese  Steels (four Group Numbers)
2
Not Used
3
Half Molybdenum or half Chromium, half Molybdenum (three Group Numbers)
4
One and a quarter Chromium, half Molybdenum (two Group Numbers)
5A
Two and a quarter Chromium, one Molybdenum
5B
Five Chromium, half Molybdenum or nine Chromium, one Molybdenum (two Group Numbers)
5C
Chromium, Molybdenum, Vanadium (five Group Numbers)
6
Martensitic Stainless Steels (Grade 410, 415, 429) (six Group Numbers)
7
Ferritic Stainless Steels (Grade 409, 430)
8
Austenitic Stainless Steels
  •      Group 1 - Grades 304, 316, 317, 347
  •      Group 2 - Grades 309, 310
  •      Group 3 - High Manganese Grades
  •      Group 4 - High Molybdenum Grades
9A, B, C
Two to four Nickel Steels
10A, B, C, F
Various low alloy steels
10H
Duplex and Super Duplex Stainless Steel (Grades 31803, 32750)
10I
High Chromium Stainless Steel
10J
High Chromium, Molybdenum Stainless Steel
10K
High Chromium, Molybdenum, Nickel Stainless Steel
11A
Various high strength low alloy steels (six Group Numbers)
11B
Various high strength low alloy steels (ten Group Numbers)
12 to 20
Not Used
21
High Aluminum content (1000 and 3000 series)
22
Aluminum (5000 series - 5052, 5454)
23
Aluminum (6000 series – 6061, 6063)
24
Not Used
25
Aluminum (5000 series - 5083, 5086, 5456)
26 to 30
Not used
31
High Copper content
32
Brass
33
Copper Silicone
34
Copper Nickel
35
Copper Aluminum
36 to 40
Not Used
41
High Nickel content
42
Nickel, Copper - (Monel 500)
43
Nickel, Chromium, Iron - (Inconel)
44
Nickel, Molybdenum – (Hastelloy B2, C22, C276, X)
45
Nickel, Chromium
46
Nickel, Chromium, Silicone
47
Nickel, Chromium, Tungsten
47 to 50
Not Used
51, 52, 53
Titanium Alloys
61, 62
Zirconium Alloys
  
On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:12 AM, PRABU k <prabuk.engg@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir,
Good Day !
Kindly Guide me whether the below mentioned ASME  P NO's   corresponds to respective Steel Types, Corrections in error if any  is most thankful.
This will help me  in selecting Proper SFA as Per ASME section II Part C.
Steel Type P NUMBER  
Carbon Steel 1
Low-Alloy Steel 3,4,5A,5B,5C,6,7,8,9A,9B,9C,11A,11B,10A,10B,10C,10F
Stainless Steel 6,7,8,10H,10I,10J,10K
Kind Regards,PRABU K
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