Dear RK Vichare.
For me this is more an ethical issue than anything else. i know it is difficult as an interpretor to find thickness from the document everytime, but RT film adresses the joint correctly with joint no. and drawing no., it is possible to find out.
if it was me i would rather struggle onetime and ask the contractor to include thickness next time during RT, rather than rejecting the films.
I believe it is unethical to reject films like this as we all know that RT is a dangerous job, no matter the technician is geting paid but its still dangerous for him so try to minimise RT as much as possible also it is waste of money.
As an interpretor we are trusting the contractor based on proffesional ethics, because if i ask you, how sure are you about the rt films presented to you are from the correct/right joint?. yes it is possible to find out but do you always cross check that?( its also a difficult job but we trust the contractor on that most of the time.)
so thats what i will do, ask the contractor to include thickness next time around. if he dont do it and comes up with some codes to support him, i ll take things personally from then with him.:)
thank you
shammas kallinkil.
Inspection Engineer
Inspection Engineer
Fanoy Gas L.L.C
Abu Dhabi.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Ramchandra vichare <vicharerke@indiatimes.com> wrote:
Dear Mr.Jean Station,
Thanks, I know it is not in any code (i.e.Sec-V Artical-2) or any other code but as far as for interpretor it is very difficut to review numbers of Radiography films & identify the IQI selection whether it is correct or wrong. If ready reference of thickness on Radiography films it is easear to interpret films in time . As far as my experience till date there was no any issue of indicate thickness on RT Films but; may be it is not confirm in any code; vendor/techiicians may take dis-advantage for the same and might have a change to use wrong IQI which may not be possible to controll quaity of Radiography by surveyor/interpretor because every time it is not possible to serch each documents for find out actual/thickness range used for Radiography.
Please go through my below mail again and advise.
Regards
RK Vichare
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean Staton <Jean.Staton@metco-ndt.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:58:34 +0530 (IST)
Subject: RE: [MW:13267] Identification of thickness on Radiography films.
I don't know of any Code that mandates putting thickness on the actual radiograph, although since there are many codes, there may be. The A.I.'s /third parties I've always dealt with know to look at the prints/ISO's, etc. There is usually a report that indicates the thickness. It is up the third party, A.I. to read the report to find information regarding the radiograph and from there to ascertain whether correct IQI has been used. If we have room on the I.D. we will put the thickness on the report but if not, all information is on the report.
jean
-----Original Message-----
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramchandra vichare
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 5:00 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:13257] Identification of thickness on Radiography films.
Dear Experts,
During Interpreting Radiography films at one of my vendor's works, I observed that, there is no identification /indicate thickness of job on film so I rejected the film. As far as generally everyone related field experience persons are know unless identification of thickness on film it is very difficult to know which penetrameter to be used but my vendor is arguing for the same. According to him one of "Level III" person insisit them there is no need to mentioned thickness in Radiography films and it sufficient if it indicate in Radiography interpretion report.
Suppose in piping number of joints/piping spools are comming with verious thickness in same report in such case it is possible to identify required penetrameter ? My anser is no, each Radiography films must be indicat thickness of joint/job. Requested to suggest/advise.
Sincerely yours,
RK Vichare
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