Hi Ramchandra,
B-31.1 may be the design code for piping, but all the NDE procedures should be written as per ASME Sec-V. Below mentioned are the requirements of ASME Sec-V on what should be covered in the RT procedure..
Clause 136.4.5(B-31.1) addresses the RT requirements which clearly states that :- When required by this Chapter (see Table 136.4), radiographic examination shall be
performed in accordance with Article 2 of Section V of the ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code.Hence the RT tech have to follow Sec-V.
Indicating the thickness on the RT film may not be mandatory (but advisable for meaningful inspection and easy film verification if the vendor agrees to )
Penetrameter (IQI) selection is influenced by the thickness of the material being radio graphed. Thus specifying the thickness vs. IQI tobe used on the NDE procedure would benefit both the NDE tech and the film verifier.
It's my point of view on this issue.
Thanks.
Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE
Welding & Metallurgical Specialist & Consultant
Ontario,Canada.
Email-pgoswami@sympatico.ca,
pgoswami@quickclic.net
T-220 GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
T-221 Procedure Requirements
T-221.1 Written Procedure. Radiographic examination shall be performed in accordance with a written procedure. Each procedure shall include at least the following information, as applicable:
(a) material type and thickness range,
(b) isotope or maximum X-ray voltage used,
(c) source-to-object distance (D in T-274.1),
(d) distance from source side of object to film (d in T-274.1),
(e) source size (F in T-274.1),
(f) film brand and designation, and
(g) screens used.
T-221.2 Procedure Demonstration. Demonstration of the density and IQI image requirements of the written procedure on production or technique radiographs shall be considered satisfactory evidence of compliance with that procedure.
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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramchandra vichare
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 3:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [MW:13279] Identification of thickness on Radiography films.
Dear Sir
Construction code is ASME B31.3(Power Cycle Piping) But as per my vendor, the selection of penetrometer is the total thickness including reinformcements of the welds.So, based on the thickness the weld reinforcment varies, so vendor argues that it can create confusion(only in border cases) if wall thickness is mentioned in the film.
Generally, the film identification shall be placed on the film to make a corelation with the report & to fullfill the mandatory requirements as laid down by the code.
Kindly advise.
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From: george dilintas <george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com>
To: materials-welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:42:07 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [MW:13269] Identification of thickness on Radiography films.
Which is your construction code?
Best regards
Dr Georgios Dilintas
Authorized Nuclear Inspector
Authorized Inspector Supervisor
HBS Regional Technical Manager
----- Original Message -----
From: Ramchandra vichare [vicharerke@indiatimes.com]
Sent: 22/12/2011 16:29 ZE5B
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:13257] Identification of thickness on Radiography films.
Dear Experts,
During Interpreting Radiography films at one of my vendor's works, I observed that, there is no identification /indicate thickness of job on film so I rejected the film. As far as generally everyone related field experience persons are know unless identification of thickness on film it is very difficult to know which penetrameter to be used but my vendor is arguing for the same. According to him one of "Level III" person insisit them there is no need to mentioned thickness in Radiography films and it sufficient if it indicate in Radiography interpretion report.
Suppose in piping number of joints/piping spools are comming with verious thickness in same report in such case it is possible to identify required penetrameter ? My anser is no, each Radiography films must be indicat thickness of joint/job. Requested to suggest/advise.
Sincerely yours,
RK Vichare
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