Re: Re: [MW:28402] Tack welder qualification

Greetings,

It is not the tack welder qualification for tack, or not even a fillet qualification for a tack in groove, but it is the qualification of welder and welding operators in groove welds who qualifies the tack as per trailing mail it is very clear that ASME B 31.3 interpretations are stirngent saying fillet qualified groove tacks also? its says no...

So in your case same applies you dont need a tack qualified welder to tack a weld, but a qualified grooved welder.

If i am in your place, i will choose the poor performance welder though are qualified, but still not consistent to get a qualified weld or a repair welder or a welder who is in revoking stages, if you quantify you will get a  sum to accompay in your tack bay, this everything comes under planning and not leaving loop holes for TPIs, if you are following as per written documents.

or

If your client or TPIs are bold or wise thinkers to know the consequences of flushed off tacks then it is not a big deal but take a verbal approval for non qualified welder, but you make sure they are good enough to make tacks.

Hope its clear.

SAES-W-011

8 Welder and Welding Operator Qualification
8.1 All welders, welding operators, brazers, and brazing operators shall be qualified in accordance with the ASME SEC IX and SAEP-321, SAEP-322, SAEP-323, and SAEP-324,as applicable, for all welding, including tack, temporary, and repair welds.

Regards,

Mohamed Muneeb Mahaboob.

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From: sunil kaushik

Date: 2018-10-08 06:45

To: materials-welding

Subject: Re: [MW:28401] Tack welder qualification

Ok noted but my tack welders are working at fitup section and welders are working at Welding area.my concern is that how I am sure that my tack welder is qualified tack welder.is there any test is required?

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 7:41 AM, Mohamed Muneeb <muneebslsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Also if SA company project then required. 

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018, 5:02 PM Kannayeram Gnanapandithan <kgpandithan@gmail.com> wrote:

What is the code of contruction. If it is AWS D1.1, yes required. But otherwise no. 

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 3:34 pm SUNILKAUSHIK, <sunilkaushik08@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear sir,
           I am working in fabrication company of piping.My company divided the the welders in two different area-(1) tack welders & (2) welders.Tack welders are working at fitup section & welders are working in welding area.Now my question is that-is it required to qualify the tack welders?If yes then why? If yes than how i will proceed & how to make the prolongation of tack welders?

On Thursday, 15 December 2011 20:22:28 UTC+5:30, samshuddin k wrote:

Dear Sir
Thanks for your guidance.
Still I am not clear with the concept
ASME Sec IX says all welding shall be done by a qualified welder, So
for tacking groove joint,
welder need to be qualified for groove joint.....?
Or if he qualified for fillet joint, he can allowed for tacking groove
joint (Tack either incorporated into the final weld or removed).....?
please reply
Samshuddin.K
Asst Engineer-QSA
N-KOM

On 12/13/11, Morin, Darcy (Bantrel Management Services)
<Mor...@bantrelmanagementservices.com> wrote:
> ASME IX recognizes "Welders and Welding Operators".  There is no provision
> for "Tack Welders" in ASME IX.  However, ASME B31.3 328.5.1(c) mentions
> "Tack Welders", and here is the subsequent Interpretation of this clause:
>
>
>
> Interpretation 22-35
>
> Subject: ASME B31.3-2008, Para. 328.5.1(c), Tack Welding Welder Performance
> Qualifications
> Date Issued: October 5, 2009
> File: 09-1003
> Question (1): Does ASME B31.3, para. 328.5.1(c) require that tack welds,
> whether they are to
> be incorporated into the final weld or be removed, be made by a qualified
> welder?
> Reply (1): Yes.
> Question (2): Does ASME B31.3, para. 328.5.1(c) require that tack welds be
> made to a qualified
> WPS for that joint?
> Reply (2): Yes; see para. 328.5.1(a).
> Question (3): Does ASME B31.3, para. 328.5.1(c) allow tack welds on a groove
> weld joint to be
> made by a welder qualified on a fillet weld test?
> Reply (3): No. See ASME BPV Code Section IX, para. 303.2.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Darcy Morin
>
> Bantrel Management Services
> mor...@bantrel.com
> o - 780 979 6225
> c - 780 782 5692
>
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> Subject: [MW:13203] Tack welder qualification
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> Dear Experts
> There is any clause in ASME Sec. IX for tack welder qualification.
> Which Code explains tack welder qualification for piping regards
> Samshuddin.K
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