Re: [MW:15273] Problem about Positive material Identification(PMI)

Dear All,

Thanks for all your valuable suggestions.We checked with other(INNOV-X-Systems) PMI equipment and got positive results.We have done 100% checking and all joints found as T91.Once again I thank you all for your suggestions.

Regards

Jubair

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM, murugesan jeyaraman <jmurugesan@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Jubir

 

Whether PMI was done before PWHT or after PWHT?

 

If results are from before PWHT, then there is something wrong in fillter metal, might be wrong fillter used.

 

If PMI done after PWHT, then you can weld sample joints again, and do PMI before and after PWHT and analyse the results.

 

Alternatively, you can try with other PMI isntruments, even you can go for Lab chemical analysis of few joints to ascertain some conclusion.

 

Thanks

 

Murugesan

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:19 AM, c sridhar <sridhar305@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Mr. Jubir,

Noted the points mentioned by you.  If the filler materials were pre checked and found to be OK for its chemistry, then there can not be any reason for such a drastic change in  the post weld chemistry, i.e., from 9% to 4%.

The pre, inter pass, post heat or PWHT  temp. as mentioned by you are all within the stipulated range and can not be a reason either.

All the 800 joints can not go wrong at a time unless something happened drastically. Have a random check (date wise fabrication) again and find  if  the Cr. deficiency  is same with all the joints. It may give an insight and may lead  to a conclusion.

regards,

Sridhar.

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From: mohamed jubair <kmd.jubair@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:15164] Problem about Positive material Identification(PMI)

Dear Mr. Sridhar

Thanks for your suggestion.

Please understand my point. The filler wire readings mentioned in the table(trailing mail) is not from the manufacture's test certificate but from Positive material identification(PMI). In PMI test two parent metals,filler wire showing positive values as T91 but weld metal only not conforming as T91.

We procured other two new batch filler wires from the same manufacturer,welded and checked. It shows positive material for all the four(two parent metal,weld metal,filler wire) as T91.

Regards

Jubair

 

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