Re: [MW:23125] Re: ASME UG-10 interpretation

you will not have to recertify the material.  For example, please read Section VIII Division I Nonmandatory Appendix 43 and specifically 43-3-3 (similar instruction for Sc I).  This directs you to ASME Section II-Part A but not very cleanly.  You will need to go to Mandatory Appendix II.  This appendix has a table of all ASME/ASTM specifications and the acceptable Code editions for each and any additional notes.  For SA/A-516 the entry is on page 1762 of Section II Part A, 2nd volume.

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Code edition applied includes material also. 2013 edition gives details of how to accept material of earlier/later editions of code. Pl refer appendices

Rgds

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Vishnu GK <vgkp88@gmail.com> wrote:

plate astm 516 to sOn Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 9:07:26 PM UTC+4, New91 wrote:
> Reviewing a material test report (MTR) of SA-516-70 certified as per ASME 2010 Ed 2011àddenda and MTR complies with all the requirements. The Job is to be U stamped per ASME 2013 ED. Theres no requirement of materials to be certified to làtest code editions in contractual documents. Since job is to be code stamped per 2013 Ed, should material also be recertified as per ASME 2013 Ed?

I Need to recertify Astm 516 to sa 516.can Anyone provide me a recertification format for this.

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Re: [MW:23124] Re: ASME UG-10 interpretation

Code edition applied includes material also. 2013 edition gives details of how to accept material of earlier/later editions of code. Pl refer appendices

Rgds

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Vishnu GK <vgkp88@gmail.com> wrote:

plate astm 516 to sOn Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 9:07:26 PM UTC+4, New91 wrote:
> Reviewing a material test report (MTR) of SA-516-70 certified as per ASME 2010 Ed 2011àddenda and MTR complies with all the requirements. The Job is to be U stamped per ASME 2013 ED. Theres no requirement of materials to be certified to làtest code editions in contractual documents. Since job is to be code stamped per 2013 Ed, should material also be recertified as per ASME 2013 Ed?

I Need to recertify Astm 516 to sa 516.can Anyone provide me a recertification format for this.

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[MW:23123] Re: ASME UG-10 interpretation

plate astm 516 to sOn Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 9:07:26 PM UTC+4, New91 wrote:
> Reviewing a material test report (MTR) of SA-516-70 certified as per ASME 2010 Ed 2011àddenda and MTR complies with all the requirements. The Job is to be U stamped per ASME 2013 ED. Theres no requirement of materials to be certified to làtest code editions in contractual documents. Since job is to be code stamped per 2013 Ed, should material also be recertified as per ASME 2013 Ed?

I Need to recertify Astm 516 to sa 516.can Anyone provide me a recertification format for this.

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Re: [MW:23121] Article 344.5.2 specifies 100% radiography for girth and miter groove welds in paragraph - Reference to definition of "Girth and Miter Groove welds"

Miter and girth means angle in circumferencial in weld to bend the the pipe it should be less than 15 degree.

M.Usman
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Descon Engineering Ltd

On Jun 28, 2015 2:31 AM, "John Henning" <jhenning@deltak.com> wrote:

circumferential welds in pipe 

mitered welds still circumferential but cut on an angle to make a bend.

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Hello Experts,

Could anyone explain what the definition of "Girth and Miter" groove welds are? I can't seem to find the definition anywhere and only mentioned in this passage of B31.3. Thanks!

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Re: [MW:23120] Article 344.5.2 specifies 100% radiography for girth and miter groove welds in paragraph - Reference to definition of "Girth and Miter Groove welds"

circumferential welds in pipe 

mitered welds still circumferential but cut on an angle to make a bend.

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Hello Experts,

Could anyone explain what the definition of "Girth and Miter" groove welds are? I can't seem to find the definition anywhere and only mentioned in this passage of B31.3. Thanks!

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[MW:23119] Article 344.5.2 specifies 100% radiography for girth and miter groove welds in paragraph - Reference to definition of "Girth and Miter Groove welds"

Hello Experts,

Could anyone explain what the definition of "Girth and Miter" groove welds are? I can't seem to find the definition anywhere and only mentioned in this passage of B31.3. Thanks!

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Re: [MW:23118] welding 4340 to A36

Hamid jaan ..

Kindly recommend to care about pre- heating for minimum 300°F and maximum interpass around 600 °F ,after welding cover/wrap it by proper heat reaistant blanket so that it cool down slowly.
For PWHT just look at the MTR or mill maker recommendation. However be aware that holding temp is around 1000°F usaully.

After stress relief MPI is recomanded.

Regards
~Reza

On Jun 25, 2015 10:30 AM, "Hamid Firoozi" <h.firoozi61@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Experts

We are going to welding 4340 to 1020 with FCAW . I know 4340 has potential for Cracking after welding ,so i`m looking for advise on welding and PWHT and backing during and after finished job

4340 in our part is with Normalized and tempered  . and no quench on it based on customer spec to catching specific hardness.

please share your experience  with me.

Thanks all

  

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[MW:23117] welding 4340 to A36

Hello Experts

We are going to welding 4340 to 1020 with FCAW . I know 4340 has potential for Cracking after welding ,so i`m looking for advise on welding and PWHT and backing during and after finished job

4340 in our part is with Normalized and tempered  . and no quench on it based on customer spec to catching specific hardness.

please share your experience  with me.

Thanks all

  

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[MW:23116] qualify WPS AWS D1.1

Dear all experts, please help me,

if I qualify WPS AWS D1.1 as picture :

A & B are the test piece cut from the spiral pipe, all are SAW process.example: t=12mm, OD = 800mm, 

my question is: according to table 4.2 AWS D1.1, the test piece B should be qualified for steel plate welding process,and range qualify will be 3mm to 2T, is it right?

also,according to AWS D1.1, the test piece A ( joint two pipes) is qualify for pipe and tubing, and range qualified is T/2 to 2T, is it right?

Thanks all .

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[MW:23115] qualify WPS for spiral welding

dear all experts,

i need your help,please

my WPS is for spiral welding pipe, process : SAW

so when I make PQR and test couple, the range f thickness qualify will be for steel plate or for pipe and tubing

example, my test couple is spiral welding pipe, size t12mmx OD 800mm,

test piece size 12mm x500x500

as table 4.2 AWS D1.1: if the test couple is for steel plate, the range qualify will be 3mm- 2T, so my WPS have range 3mm to 24mm

but if the couple is for pipe and tubing, the range thickness only T/2 to 2T, so my WPS have range 6mm to 24mm

So the spiral welding pipe all of you think it is steel plate or pipe and tubing ( AWS D1.1)

Thanks very much.

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Re: [MW:23114] Re: Doglegs Tolerance

Normally 5D of pipe.

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Date:23/06/2015 16:55 (GMT+03:00)
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Subject: [MW:23109] Re: Doglegs Tolerance

Are u talking about the dead legs in refinery piping ???

On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:28:47 UTC+5:30, krishna kamal nayan Pandey wrote:

Can any body gives permissible tolerance for Dog leg. Whether any standard is covering this tolerance.

 

Best Regards,

 

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[MW:23113] RE: 23109] Re: Doglegs Tolerance

Yes

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Subject: [MW:23109] Re: Doglegs Tolerance

Are u talking about the dead legs in refinery piping ???

On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:28:47 UTC+5:30, krishna kamal nayan Pandey wrote:

Can any body gives permissible tolerance for Dog leg. Whether any standard is covering this tolerance.

 

Best Regards,

 

Krishana Kamal Nayan

QA/QC  Engineer

Weatherford Oil Tool Middle East Ltd. |

Mobile:+964 780 925 0270

Krishan...@ME.Weatherford.com  │ www.weatherford.com

 

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[MW:23109] Re: Doglegs Tolerance

Are u talking about the dead legs in refinery piping ???

On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:28:47 UTC+5:30, krishna kamal nayan Pandey wrote:

Can any body gives permissible tolerance for Dog leg. Whether any standard is covering this tolerance.

 

Best Regards,

 

Krishana Kamal Nayan

QA/QC  Engineer

Weatherford Oil Tool Middle East Ltd. |

Mobile:+964 780 925 0270

Krishan...@ME.Weatherford.com  │ www.weatherford.com

 

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RE: [MW:23109] spherical tank requirements for inspection.

At first, You must identify the construction code of the equipment and then review it.

 

There you´ll have all inspection, examination and testing requirements for the tank  

 

regards

 

Miroslav Tadic

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De: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
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Asunto: [MW:23102] spherical tank requirements for inspection.

 

Dear members,   I woluld like to ask a favor from you about the inspection requiremnts for spherical tank iam new for this job i dont have an idea what is the requiremnts Prior to accept the fit up ang after welding.   Regards    Vin   Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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RE: [MW:23108] Post Weld Hydrogen bake out...Post weld baking -P-22

Hello Pradip,

 

As mentioned below by Gerald and Dr. Georgios Dilintas(in another email) , a bake out @ 250-300 Deg C for 1-2 hrs would be advisable. The variables are :-

• section thickness(25 mm or more)
• H4 or Non H8 category of welding consumables.

If  welding is done  by GTAW (all through) then bake out may not be required at all or could be very minimal, @ 30 mins max (for mental comfort), to satisfy all  requirements.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE

Welding & Metallurgical Engineer/Specialist

Ontario, Canada

pgoswami@quickclic.net

pradip.goswami@gmail.com

 

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Subject: Re: [MW:23104] Post Weld Hydrogen bake out...Post weld baking -P-22

Please refer API Recommended Practice 934-A regarding Post Heating or DeHydrogenation Treatment

Recommended 300degC for min 1Hour.

Copy not available with me.

 

Thanks & Regards

J.Gerald Jayakumar

0091-9344954677

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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:57 AM
Subject: [MW:23103] Post Weld Hydrogen bake out...Post weld baking -P-22

Dear All,

Post weld hydrogen bake out ( Post weld baking ) is aplicable for ASTM 335 GR. P-22 material.There is any applicable standard.

Regards

Pradip

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Re: [MW:23111] spherical tank requirements for inspection.

Absolutely correct. This forum will help clarify or have a discussion on interpretation of codes/standards. Members must go thro the codes and raise points for discussion, or a practical problem and possible solutions etc

Rgds

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:27 PM, <george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com> wrote:

since you are new you have to start studding the applicable construction Code or standard.
If you have any questions on the Code or standard, then you may address the forum.
The forum can not replace Codes and Standards

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Re: [MW:23107] spherical tank requirements for inspection.

since you are new you have to start studding the applicable construction Code or standard.
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The forum can not replace Codes and Standards

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Re: [MW:23106] Post Weld Hydrogen bake out...Post weld baking -P-22

I would suggest to read and understand the chapter 2.5.3 of National Board Inspection Code - repairs and alterations

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pradip kumar Sil ---23/06/2015 08:31:19---Dear All, Post weld hydrogen bake out ( Post weld baking ) is aplicable for ASTM 335

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Dear All,
Post weld hydrogen bake out ( Post weld baking ) is aplicable for ASTM 335 GR. P-22 material.There is any applicable standard.
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Re: [MW:23112] Post Weld Hydrogen bake out...Post weld baking -P-22

Dear Mr. Jayakumar,

Thanks for your valuable reply. For fossil power plant,there is any applicable code for particular issue.

Regards

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:38 AM, 'james gerald' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Please refer API Recommended Practice 934-A regarding Post Heating or DeHydrogenation Treatment

Recommended 300degC for min 1Hour.

Copy not available with me.

 

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Dear All,

Post weld hydrogen bake out ( Post weld baking ) is aplicable for ASTM 335 GR. P-22 material.There is any applicable standard.

Regards

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Re: [MW:23104] Post Weld Hydrogen bake out...Post weld baking -P-22

Please refer API Recommended Practice 934-A regarding Post Heating or DeHydrogenation Treatment

Recommended 300degC for min 1Hour.

Copy not available with me.

 

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Dear All,

Post weld hydrogen bake out ( Post weld baking ) is aplicable for ASTM 335 GR. P-22 material.There is any applicable standard.

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Re: [MW:23105] Doglegs Tolerance

Presume , you are referring to the Drilling equipments (Like Rams ), if so  in general , It shall come from the OEM spec /Drawing.

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:04 PM, krishna kamal nayan Pandey <kkmech1987@gmail.com> wrote:

Can any body gives permissible tolerance for Dog leg. Whether any standard is covering this tolerance.

 

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[MW:23103] Post Weld Hydrogen bake out...Post weld baking -P-22

Dear All,

Post weld hydrogen bake out ( Post weld baking ) is aplicable for ASTM 335 GR. P-22 material.There is any applicable standard.

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Pradip

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Re: [MW:23122] spherical tank requirements for inspection.

Hi .
If is atmosféric tank is api 650 or 620 for fabrication for inspection is api 653 if is pressure tank is asme section 8 división 1 inspection is NB 23 or api 510 .

Best regars
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El jun 22, 2015 1:26 PM, 'mervin dio' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> escribió:

Dear members, I woluld like to ask a favor from you about the inspection requiremnts for spherical tank iam new for this job i dont have an idea what is the requiremnts Prior to accept the fit up ang after welding. Regards  Vin Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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[MW:23102] spherical tank requirements for inspection.

Dear members, I woluld like to ask a favor from you about the inspection requiremnts for spherical tank iam new for this job i dont have an idea what is the requiremnts Prior to accept the fit up ang after welding. Regards  Vin Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Re: [MW:23101] Doglegs Tolerance

Can you specify the pipe spec and what it is used for ? Since you are referring to "line pipe" I presume its the pipe covered in spec API 5L. 

 

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:04 PM, krishna kamal nayan Pandey <kkmech1987@gmail.com> wrote:

Can any body gives permissible tolerance for Dog leg. Whether any standard is covering this tolerance.

 

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