Wednesday, April 30, 2008

[MW:758]

 
Dear Members
 
Can anyone post me the data as regards "construction of radiography chamber ' used  in the site for taking X ray of
welded pipes and tubes . The approximate dimension shall be 20 meter long with 12 meter width  brick and mortar
construction . Raidation level shall have to  be maintained within 50 curie
Regards

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008

[MW:757] Material for 1'' BE Fittings

Hi Gents,

 

This is for 1'' fittings like Elbows, TEE etc

 

Appreciate if somebody could advice me whether I can accept this. The vendor is telling that if it's BE, then it will be A234 GR.WPB, SCH 160, BE for 1'' fittings.

 

Kindly advice.

 

As per Spec

Vendor offered

6000 LB, FS, BE A-181 GR.1

A234 GR.WPB, SCH 160, BE

6000 LB, FS, BE A-181 GR.1

A234 GR.WPB, SCH 160, BE

3000 LB, FS, BE A-181 GR.1

A234 GR.WPB, SCH 160, BE

 

 

Thank you,

 

Regards,

 

Sabir


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Monday, April 28, 2008

[MW:755] Query on use of Body Material on test valve for Fire testing certification on Hastelloy Valve


Hi all,

I need your help for technical clarification for fire safe testing on Hastelloy Ball Valves.

We are buying soft seated Hastelloy On-Off ball valves, as per specifications all soft seated valves shall be fire safe design and a fire safe certificate is must.

The manufacturer is now taking up the Fire test at China but they are using the body material Austenitic SS (304 / 316). They claimed that the Hastelloy can be classified as 'Austenitic' within the generic classification defined in API 607.

I have a queries as below:
1.) Whether the Hastelloy material C-276 can be classified as Austenitic material within the generic classification defined in API 607. Please provide the reference that defines this.
2.) If the answer to 1.) is yes, whether testing on any austenitic material, say 304 or 316, can qualify the fire test capability of Hastelloy valves.

The relevant section of API 607 is appended below for your ready reference.





Thanks in advance,


Regards,

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Sunday, April 27, 2008

[MW:753] Re: RBI tool for Aboveground Storage Tanks

Dear Mr. Tagore, Thanks for your immediate reply. API has yet to release the appendix related to AST as part of API-581. I understand API is in the initial stages of developing the logic for the AST RBI/temporarily stopped the further development. However, some consultants might have developed their own RBI software for AST evaluation and few oil companies might have implemented them. Example: ------has a very effective RBI software for static equipment/piping excluding AST. However their incomplete version of AST software is also available in the market but without roof evaluation. Our requirement is specific, to have RBI software for AST including fixed/floating roof evaluation. Pl. share with me if you come across any agency/company supplying complete AST RBI evaluation. Regards Srinivasa Murthy Hari On 4/27/08, Tirumala B N Tagore <tagore.tbn@gmail.com> wrote:
Could you see API 653? It may not give RBI guidelines seperately for AST similar to guide lines for Pressure vessels. But one can use the principles. For roof inspection , the main zones are at the tank shell to roof junction , roof thickness at locations adjoining the rafters for Fixed roof/ dome roof cases. For Floating roof cases, the thickness mesurement at anti rotation guides, roof supports at LLL , where seal is atached specifically underside of the roof, where the sliding rail guides are welded , where pantoon compartments are welded and pantoon walls..
In case a specific nature , you may post it for review .
Regards,
Tagore
On 4/27/08, Hari Srinivasa Murthy <harimurthy@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear friends,
API 581 dos not provide guidelines to evaluate Aboveground Storage Tanks with Risk Based Inspection ( RBI) tools.
Can any one recommend me the names of consultants who conducts RBI studies, (either quanitative or semiquantitative) on storage tanks including tank roofs. In my experience ----provides RBI of AST excluding roofs. I would like to know industry practice in such cases.
This may be out of place to pose a query on RBI in the material&welding discussion forum, however, I know the knowledge base of our group is very strong and I am sure atleast few of the group members have RBI background and may be able to help me.
Regards
Srinivasa Murthy Hari
Kuwait

Saturday, April 26, 2008

[MW:750] HI I AM IN USA


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--- On Sun, 20/4/08, Jignesh Patel <nacemail@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jignesh Patel <nacemail@gmail.com>
Subject: [MW:723] AET type exchanger test ring
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 20 April, 2008, 9:16 PM

Dear Friends,

 

I have seen few heat exchangers on this forum. I am an end user of heat exchangers in refinery. My query is related to test rings of exchangers.

 

One of our new units has AET type exchangers [pull through type]. These exchangers have a floating tubesheet [FTS] with bolt holes and the floating head cover [FHC] is directly bolted to the floating tubesheet. The problem with this is that we can't carry out shell test using a conventional test ring due to several bolt holes on the floating tubesheet. Conventional AES exchangers have backing rings pressing the FHC against the FTS.

 

I checked TEMA website and it says, test rings for such exchangers are possible and the bolt holes in the tubesheet need to be temporarily plugged. It also says refer to 4.13 (3) of TEMA. Unfortunately we don't have the latest edition of TEMA.

 

Does any one have experience with test rings [for shell test] for AET type exchangers? I would appreciate a generic drawing / scheme showing how to carry  out shell test of such exchangers.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Jignesh

Kuwait

 

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[MW:749] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

hi friends ,
               i am plan to do project in cold cracking .. as we all know cold crack occurs mainly due to diffusible hydrogen in weld metal and haz .. i want to determine the optimum level of  hydrogen  in haz  .. is there any method(test)  to determine the safe level of hydrogen .. in the haz

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING) <R.Bathula@ticb.com> wrote:


http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/2008/04/mw738-re-737-re-how-to-fin
d-hydrogen.html


Please check above link for the same.

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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:09 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:738] RE: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration


Dear Mr. Bathula,

It is difficult to open a .DAT file. Will it be possible to send it as
any other attachment.

Thanks and best regards.

G. A. Soman
PRINCIPAL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING)" <R.Bathula@ticb.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:23 pm
Subject: [MW:738] RE: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

>
> the formula is not appering in the message, hence resending as an
> attachment.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com on behalf of Raghuram Bathula
> Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 20:51
> To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [MW:737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration
>
> May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please
> detaile it for
> the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!
>
> This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of
> steels and is
> valid only for certain range of steels
>
>
>
> Where *P*H is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the
> concentrationof hydrogen (in parts per million), *R*f is the
> restraint stress (in
> megapascals), and:
>
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > is there any mathematical formula to find  optimum level of hydrogen
> > concentration in steels
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>




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Hi
I am zahid, I came to know about your group thru mechanical engineering group which I regularly join. I am working as a QAQC welding inspector and at the moment I am preparing to appear for AWS welding engineers exam. I would like to join your group and would welcome any assisitance for preparation on AWS Certified welding engineers exam.
 
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Friday, April 25, 2008

[MW:747] Stressing the importance of Welding integrity analysis

Source: Asian Oil & Gas March/April2008 Issue

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[MW:748] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

One of the reason for determining the hydrogen in steel is to make
critical decisions which involve welding / repairs in an inservice
vessel. Vessels which operate in environments where significant amount
of hydrogen charging occurs face a threat of cracking during weld
repairs if there is significant amount of dissolved H2 in the
material. For such instances, the vessel / part is first subject to
hydrogen bake out and then weld repaired. Hydrogen bake out should be
good enough to bring down the hydrogen level below the critical level.

I am not sure why dissolved hydrogen is critical in new fabrication.

Regards,
Jignesh Patel

On Apr 23, 6:21 pm, "Raghuram Bathula" <raghurambath...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please detaile it for
> the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!
>
> This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of steels and is
> valid only for certain range of steels
>
> Where *P*H is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the concentration
> of hydrogen (in parts per million), *R*f is the restraint stress (in
> megapascals), and:
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > is there any mathematical formula to find optimum level of hydrogen
> > concentration in steels

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Thursday, April 24, 2008

[MW:746] Re: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

it is from one of the ASM Handbook (i will give the exact volume# once
i come back to office in a couple of weeks), thou' i have never used
and no idea why this has to be calculated, but it is given in a
chapter in continuation with CE formulae


On Apr 24, 4:18 pm, "Tirumala B N Tagore" <tagore....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Where from you take Rf?
> Is H for Hydrogen % or partial pressure?
> Finally how do you use Ph and in what relation?
> What are the reference books, standards in the above context.?
> Regards,
> tagore
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING) <
>
> R.Bath...@ticb.com> wrote:
>
> > the formula is not appering in the message, hence resending as an
> > attachment.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com on behalf of Raghuram Bathula
> > Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 20:51
> > To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [MW:737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration
>
> > May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please detaile it for
> > the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!
>
> > This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of steels and is
> > valid only for certain range of steels
>
> > Where *P*H is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the concentration
> > of hydrogen (in parts per million), *R*f is the restraint stress (in
> > megapascals), and:
>
> > Good luck!
>
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > is there any mathematical formula to find optimum level of hydrogen
> > > concentration in steels
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[MW:744] Re: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

Where from you take Rf?
Is H for Hydrogen % or partial pressure?
Finally how do you use Ph and  in what relation?
What are the reference books, standards in the above context.?
Regards,
tagore


On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING) <R.Bathula@ticb.com> wrote:

the formula is not appering in the message, hence resending as an attachment.

-----Original Message-----
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com on behalf of Raghuram Bathula
Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 20:51
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please detaile it for
the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!

This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of steels and is
valid only for certain range of steels



Where *P*H is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the concentration
of hydrogen (in parts per million), *R*f is the restraint stress (in
megapascals), and:




Good luck!

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> is there any mathematical formula to find  optimum level of hydrogen
> concentration in steels
>
> >
>









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[MW:745] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

Can you eloborate  on Rf and   refrence  standard or technical  literature  on this.As i understand , the H2 partial pressure needs to be  seen in the process stream and  steel shall be suitable to be resistant .
Regards,
tagore

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Raghuram Bathula <raghurambathula@gmail.com> wrote:

May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please detaile it for the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!

This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of steels and is valid only for certain range of steels

 

Where PH is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the concentration of hydrogen (in parts per million), Rf is the restraint stress (in megapascals), and:

 

 

Good luck!


On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> is there any mathematical formula to find  optimum level of hydrogen
> concentration in steels
>
> >
>





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[MW:743] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

Theer is no such method and also it is not the criteria to select the appropriate steel.
We need to see hydrogen % in the process fluid being handled in the vessel and if it is above certain level, the steel shall be vacuum degassed one and  also  API 941 gives guidelines for steel selection.
Tagore

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:58 AM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:

is there any mathematical formula to find  optimum level of hydrogen
concentration in steels




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[MW:742] Re: 725] Re: AET type exchanger test ring

It works sir
It is unusual to adopt floating tube sheet type hxr for more than 70 bar(g). In such a case you should have the tube to tube sheet weld  as Strength welded joint and  you do not need to have so much trouble with test ring + gland follower etc  since you can ensure the integrity of  TTP  weld joint by halogen/ Helium test.
If you can give me the fluids on both sides and  design parameters,  some  other  options can be there.
Regards,
tagore
 

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:14 PM, JP <naceindia@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr Tagore,

 

Thanks a lot. I could visualize the way u suggested to test these type exchangers. My only worry is the test pressure for these hx. Some of these hx have a shell test pressure of 1000 psig and I am not sure if the rubber gasket will work. But will surely try to work out a solution accordingly.

 

Thanks a lot for your reply.

 

Regards,

Jignesh

 

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tirumala B N Tagore
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:59 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:725] Re: AET type exchanger test ring

 

Sub: Test ring arrangement for AET type Hxr  shell side test  to verify the Tube to tube sheet joint integrity

This is not unusual. You need to use gland follower + gland ring set the same way as done for  S type to obtain  leak tight joint on OD of  floating tube sheet . Additionally the Bolt holes of  floating tube sheet need to be provided with plugs . This can be achived  by using Bolts +  rubber O ring or  Flat rubber ring gasket  placed in between the bolt head & rear side ( shell side ) face of  floating tube sheet .In this method the bolts need to be placed in to the bolt holes from rear side of  Floating tube sheet and  you can tighten the nut on to the bolt from tube side of  tube sheet i.e., from front side. The only problem is that  in the  event of  leak even at one bolt hole , we need to remove the gland ring+ follower and  attend.

In some instances  people use  solid rubber cones attached to stud , place the stud entry from rear end so that conical rubber seats on to the bolt hole on rear side of  tube sheet , tighetn the stud using a hex nut from front side. Care should be excersized  not to damage the bonding of  stud to solid rubber cone  while tightening the stud .

At present I do not possses the sketches  showing the above  arrangements. But these are  very normal practices in the industry.

 In case any more information is needed one can contact me on my mobile +966562743138 on Thursdays and  fridays.

Regards,

Tagore

 

On 4/20/08, Jignesh Patel <nacemail@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

 

I have seen few heat exchangers on this forum. I am an end user of heat exchangers in refinery. My query is related to test rings of exchangers.

 

One of our new units has AET type exchangers [pull through type]. These exchangers have a floating tubesheet [FTS] with bolt holes and the floating head cover [FHC] is directly bolted to the floating tubesheet. The problem with this is that we can't carry out shell test using a conventional test ring due to several bolt holes on the floating tubesheet. Conventional AES exchangers have backing rings pressing the FHC against the FTS.

 

I checked TEMA website and it says, test rings for such exchangers are possible and the bolt holes in the tubesheet need to be temporarily plugged. It also says refer to 4.13 (3) of TEMA. Unfortunately we don't have the latest edition of TEMA.

 

Does any one have experience with test rings [for shell test] for AET type exchangers? I would appreciate a generic drawing / scheme showing how to carry  out shell test of such exchangers.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Jignesh

Kuwait

 

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[MW:741] RE: 739] how to find hydrogen concentration

Dear all,

We used a similar system detailed at http://www.nde.com/hydrogen.htm to
evaluate the remaining life of C-1/2Mo components and for hydrogen pressure
we multiplied (absolute system pressure) with (molar fraction of H2 gas)
thereby giving partial pressure of Hydrogen only.

Above procedure cater for the incubation times for HIC also which are not
considered at design stage as in API-941.

Best regards,

Muhammad Nasir Abbas
Sr. Inspection Engineer,
Fauji Fertilizer Company Limited, Mirpur Mathelo 65050, Distt. Ghotki,
Pakistan.
Ph. +92(723)652301-10 (Off: 3414), Fax. +92(723)651303, Mob. +92(333)4774047
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(Mumbai - PIPING)
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:10 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:739] how to find hydrogen concentration

http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/2008/04/mw738-re-737-re-how-to-fin
d-hydrogen.html

Please check above link for the same.

-----Original Message-----
From: donboscomarine@vsnl.net [mailto:donboscomarine@vsnl.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:09 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:738] RE: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration


Dear Mr. Bathula,

It is difficult to open a .DAT file. Will it be possible to send it as
any other attachment.

Thanks and best regards.

G. A. Soman
PRINCIPAL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING)" <R.Bathula@ticb.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:23 pm
Subject: [MW:738] RE: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

>
> the formula is not appering in the message, hence resending as an
> attachment.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com on behalf of Raghuram Bathula
> Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 20:51
> To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [MW:737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration
>
> May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please
> detaile it for
> the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!
>
> This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of
> steels and is
> valid only for certain range of steels
>
>
>
> Where *P*H is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the
> concentrationof hydrogen (in parts per million), *R*f is the
> restraint stress (in
> megapascals), and:
>
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > is there any mathematical formula to find optimum level of hydrogen
> > concentration in steels
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[MW:740] RE: 725] Re: AET type exchanger test ring

Dear Mr Tagore,

 

Thanks a lot. I could visualize the way u suggested to test these type exchangers. My only worry is the test pressure for these hx. Some of these hx have a shell test pressure of 1000 psig and I am not sure if the rubber gasket will work. But will surely try to work out a solution accordingly.

 

Thanks a lot for your reply.

 

Regards,

Jignesh

 

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tirumala B N Tagore
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:59 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:725] Re: AET type exchanger test ring

 

Sub: Test ring arrangement for AET type Hxr  shell side test  to verify the Tube to tube sheet joint integrity

This is not unusual. You need to use gland follower + gland ring set the same way as done for  S type to obtain  leak tight joint on OD of  floating tube sheet . Additionally the Bolt holes of  floating tube sheet need to be provided with plugs . This can be achived  by using Bolts +  rubber O ring or  Flat rubber ring gasket  placed in between the bolt head & rear side ( shell side ) face of  floating tube sheet .In this method the bolts need to be placed in to the bolt holes from rear side of  Floating tube sheet and  you can tighten the nut on to the bolt from tube side of  tube sheet i.e., from front side. The only problem is that  in the  event of  leak even at one bolt hole , we need to remove the gland ring+ follower and  attend.

In some instances  people use  solid rubber cones attached to stud , place the stud entry from rear end so that conical rubber seats on to the bolt hole on rear side of  tube sheet , tighetn the stud using a hex nut from front side. Care should be excersized  not to damage the bonding of  stud to solid rubber cone  while tightening the stud .

At present I do not possses the sketches  showing the above  arrangements. But these are  very normal practices in the industry.

 In case any more information is needed one can contact me on my mobile +966562743138 on Thursdays and  fridays.

Regards,

Tagore

 

On 4/20/08, Jignesh Patel <nacemail@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

 

I have seen few heat exchangers on this forum. I am an end user of heat exchangers in refinery. My query is related to test rings of exchangers.

 

One of our new units has AET type exchangers [pull through type]. These exchangers have a floating tubesheet [FTS] with bolt holes and the floating head cover [FHC] is directly bolted to the floating tubesheet. The problem with this is that we can't carry out shell test using a conventional test ring due to several bolt holes on the floating tubesheet. Conventional AES exchangers have backing rings pressing the FHC against the FTS.

 

I checked TEMA website and it says, test rings for such exchangers are possible and the bolt holes in the tubesheet need to be temporarily plugged. It also says refer to 4.13 (3) of TEMA. Unfortunately we don't have the latest edition of TEMA.

 

Does any one have experience with test rings [for shell test] for AET type exchangers? I would appreciate a generic drawing / scheme showing how to carry  out shell test of such exchangers.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Jignesh

Kuwait

 

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[MW:739] how to find hydrogen concentration

http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/2008/04/mw738-re-737-re-how-to-fin
d-hydrogen.html

Please check above link for the same.

-----Original Message-----
From: donboscomarine@vsnl.net [mailto:donboscomarine@vsnl.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:09 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:738] RE: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration


Dear Mr. Bathula,

It is difficult to open a .DAT file. Will it be possible to send it as
any other attachment.

Thanks and best regards.

G. A. Soman
PRINCIPAL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING)" <R.Bathula@ticb.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:23 pm
Subject: [MW:738] RE: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com

>
> the formula is not appering in the message, hence resending as an
> attachment.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com on behalf of Raghuram Bathula
> Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 20:51
> To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [MW:737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration
>
> May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please
> detaile it for
> the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!
>
> This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of
> steels and is
> valid only for certain range of steels
>
>
>
> Where *P*H is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the
> concentrationof hydrogen (in parts per million), *R*f is the
> restraint stress (in
> megapascals), and:
>
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > is there any mathematical formula to find optimum level of hydrogen
> > concentration in steels
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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Wednesday, April 23, 2008

[MW:738] RE: 737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

the formula is not appering in the message, hence resending as an attachment.

-----Original Message-----
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com on behalf of Raghuram Bathula
Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 20:51
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please detaile it for
the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!

This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of steels and is
valid only for certain range of steels

Where *P*H is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the concentration
of hydrogen (in parts per million), *R*f is the restraint stress (in
megapascals), and:


Good luck!

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> is there any mathematical formula to find optimum level of hydrogen
> concentration in steels
>
> >
>


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[MW:737] Re: how to find hydrogen concentration

May i know why you need this calculation? if possible please detaile it for the benifit of all members. probably the following would help you!

This formula is used for detecting cracking susceptibility of steels and is valid only for certain range of steels

 

Where PH is the cracking susceptibility parameter, H is the concentration of hydrogen (in parts per million), Rf is the restraint stress (in megapascals), and:

 

 

Good luck!

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, mech <arunmecheng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> is there any mathematical formula to find  optimum level of hydrogen
> concentration in steels
>
> >
>


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[MW:735] Re: ultrasonic testing for hic

Dear Groupmembers,

I have uploaded the procedure sent by Mr Mohd Nasir Abbas on our google group. Any body interested may download the same from :
http://groups.google.co.in/group/materials-welding/files?hl=en&upload=1

Thanks a lot Mr Abbas.

Regards,
Jignesh Patel

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Muhammad Nasir Abbas <m.nasirabbas@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends,

I tried to upload it to 2 different free servers but failed due to some
local administrator restrictions. I am emailing it to you. Please upload it
to some good free site and share the link to all.

Best regards,

Muhammad Nasir Abbas
Sr. Inspection Engineer,
Fauji Fertilizer Company Limited, Mirpur Mathelo 65050, Distt. Ghotki,
Pakistan.
Ph. +92(723)652301-10 (Off: 3414), Fax. +92(723)651303, Mob. +92(333)4774047
Email: abbas_nasir@ffc.com.pk; m.nasirabbas@gmail.com
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From: JP [mailto:naceindia@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:04 PM
To: 'Muhammad Nasir Abbas'
Subject: ultrasonic testing for hic

Dear Mr Abbas,

Kindly request you to send me the scanned copy by gmail if possible. Thanks
and regards,

Jignesh Patel

-----Original Message-----
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
[mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Nasir
Abbas
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:35 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:727] RE: 724] ultrasonic testing for hic


Dear Prakash,

I have an scanned EXXON manual for "Ultrasonic detection of High Temperature
Hydrogen attack in Carbone steels". Let me know if it can serve your
purpose. I will upload it to some free server (9-10Mb approx.) like
www.4shared.com for you.

Best regards,

Muhammad Nasir Abbas
Sr. Inspection Engineer,
Fauji Fertilizer Company Limited, Mirpur Mathelo 65050, Distt. Ghotki,
Pakistan.
Ph. +92(723)652301-10 (Off: 3414), Fax. +92(723)651303, Mob. +92(333)4774047
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[mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gajjalla surya
prakash
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:56 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:724] ultrasonic testing for hic


dear members,

is there any specific technique /method to find out HIC HIDROGEN
INDUCED CRACKING  using ultrasonic testing.


surya prakash gajjalla

ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING SERVICES.





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[MW:736] how to find hydrogen concentration

is there any mathematical formula to find optimum level of hydrogen
concentration in steels

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Tuesday, April 22, 2008

[MW:734] Re: SNT-TC-1A 2001, Paragaraph 8.2.2 ( colour contrast differentiation)

Another Q&A taken from TNT on the subject

Q. My Level III has advised that SNT-TC-1A 2001 paragraph 8.2.2
specifies a requirement for distinguishing between shades of gray and
has recommended a contrast sensitivity chart for this purpose. Can you
clarify the interpretation, as the general opinion from those I have
spoken to claim the contrast sensitivity chart is relevant to
radiography. My employer does not carry out any radiography and I am
not sure whether SNT-TC-1A makes a distinction between methods when
calling for this test. L.V., Aberdeenshire, UK
A. Paragraph 8.2.2 (Color Contrast Differentiation) of the 2001
edition of SNT-TC-1A states "The examination should demonstrate the
capability of distinguishing and differentiating contrast among colors
or shades of gray used in the method as determined by the employer.
This should be conducted upon initial certification and at three year
intervals thereafter." You can see that paragraph 8.2.2 specifies
colors or shades of gray. An exam to determine shades of gray that
might be appropriate for radiographic film interpretation would not be
an appropriate exam for penetrant tests that utilize visible red dye.

Your query is one of many interpretation requests made regarding eye
exams recommended in SNT-TC-1A, and has been specifically addressed in
Inquiry 78-11 of Interpreting SNT-TC-1A. Part two of the response made
by the SNT-TC-1A Interpretations Panel explains the intention of
paragraph 8.2.2 as follows: "... such practical examinations include
checkpoints as appropriate to verify that the candidate's color vision
capabilities are adequate to satisfy the specific needs imposed by the
NDT method in question, the employers test equipment, procedures and
products."

On Apr 22, 8:07 pm, Raghuram Bathula <raghurambath...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Mr Raghavendra
>
> I was just going thro the pages (In box) of TNT journal published by
> ASNT, the below is the extract
>
> 've noticed a few inquiries lately about Section 8.2.2 of SNT-TC-1A
> 2001 in the "Inbox". Having run into this particular issue myself a
> couple of years ago during an audit, I have this to offer. Section
> 8.2.2 states in part "... distinguishing and differentiating contrast
> among colors or shades of gray used in the method... ." In MT and PT
> inspections, this usually means color vision capable of determining
> red powder and/or red dye. In radiography this would be shades of
> gray. The Ishihara color vision test is one of the accepted and
> standard tests used to meet the needs and requirements for color
> vision tests. A test standard does exist for gray scale — the Pelli-
> Robinson test. Called my ophthalmologist and he referred me to a
> supplier. S.C., Bakersfield, CA
>
> However i could not find any links in the Bakersfield site
>
> for more information you may writre to him or call him {(The Editor of
> The NDT Technician (a.k.a TNT)}
> hhumphr...@asnt.org
> (800) 222-2768 X 206
> (614) 274-6899 fax
>
> On Apr 22, 4:49 pm, "RAGHAVENDRA PEMMARAJU" <r...@hzw.ltindia.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Can any one of you suggest who is the supplier of Pelli-Robinson test kit which is useful for gray scale test as per above requirement.
>
> > regards,
> > Raghavendra
>
> > Larsen & Toubro Ltd.www.larsentoubro.com
>
> > This Email may contain confidential or privileged information for the intended recipient (s) If you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disseminate the information, notify the sender and delete it from your system.
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[MW:733] Re: SNT-TC-1A 2001, Paragaraph 8.2.2 ( colour contrast differentiation)

Dear Mr Raghavendra

I was just going thro the pages (In box) of TNT journal published by
ASNT, the below is the extract

've noticed a few inquiries lately about Section 8.2.2 of SNT-TC-1A
2001 in the "Inbox". Having run into this particular issue myself a
couple of years ago during an audit, I have this to offer. Section
8.2.2 states in part "... distinguishing and differentiating contrast
among colors or shades of gray used in the method... ." In MT and PT
inspections, this usually means color vision capable of determining
red powder and/or red dye. In radiography this would be shades of
gray. The Ishihara color vision test is one of the accepted and
standard tests used to meet the needs and requirements for color
vision tests. A test standard does exist for gray scale — the Pelli-
Robinson test. Called my ophthalmologist and he referred me to a
supplier. S.C., Bakersfield, CA

However i could not find any links in the Bakersfield site

for more information you may writre to him or call him {(The Editor of
The NDT Technician (a.k.a TNT)}
hhumphries@asnt.org
(800) 222-2768 X 206
(614) 274-6899 fax

On Apr 22, 4:49 pm, "RAGHAVENDRA PEMMARAJU" <r...@hzw.ltindia.com>
wrote:
> Can any one of you suggest who is the supplier of Pelli-Robinson test kit which is useful for gray scale test as per above requirement.
>
> regards,
> Raghavendra
>
> Larsen & Toubro Ltd.www.larsentoubro.com
>
> This Email may contain confidential or privileged information for the intended recipient (s) If you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disseminate the information, notify the sender and delete it from your system.
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[MW:730] SNT-TC-1A 2001, Paragaraph 8.2.2 ( colour contrast differentiation)

Can any one of you suggest who is the supplier of Pelli-Robinson test kit which is useful for gray scale  test as per above requirement.
 
regards,
Raghavendra

Larsen & Toubro Ltd.

www.larsentoubro.com

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[MW:729] Gray scale test in NDT as per SNT-TC-1A

From: RAGHAVENDRA PEMMARAJU [mailto:rpe@hzw.ltindia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:23 AM
To: Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING)
Subject: Gray scale test in NDT as per SNT-TC-1A

Can you let me know the supplier of Pelli-Robinson test kit which is
useful as mentioned in subject matter?

Now days I am not receiving the mails from MW group. pl.put this in the
same and include my e mail ID again.

Regards


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[MW:728] Re: ultrasonic testing for hic

Dear Surya,
 
Time of Flight Diffraction and Phased Array Scan are tools used for HIC detection. Let me know if you need more information.
 
You might be interested to read this:
 
Also you can visit www.tcreng.com and see the TofD related information.
 
Regards
Rohit Bafna
 


On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:56 AM, gajjalla surya prakash <gajjalla@gmail.com> wrote:

dear members,

is there any specific technique /method to find out HIC HIDROGEN
INDUCED CRACKING  using ultrasonic testing.


surya prakash gajjalla

ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING SERVICES.




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[MW:732] RE: 727] RE: 724] ultrasonic testing for hic

But that manual will only help detection of HTHA and not HIC.

Rgds,
Jignesh Patel

-----Original Message-----
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
[mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Nasir
Abbas
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:35 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:727] RE: 724] ultrasonic testing for hic


Dear Prakash,

I have an scanned EXXON manual for "Ultrasonic detection of High Temperature
Hydrogen attack in Carbone steels". Let me know if it can serve your
purpose. I will upload it to some free server (9-10Mb approx.) like
www.4shared.com for you.

Best regards,

Muhammad Nasir Abbas
Sr. Inspection Engineer,
Fauji Fertilizer Company Limited, Mirpur Mathelo 65050, Distt. Ghotki,
Pakistan.
Ph. +92(723)652301-10 (Off: 3414), Fax. +92(723)651303, Mob. +92(333)4774047
Email: abbas_nasir@ffc.com.pk; m.nasirabbas@gmail.com
Save a TREE: Avoid printing this email, unless really need to!

-----Original Message-----
From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
[mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gajjalla surya
prakash
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:56 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:724] ultrasonic testing for hic


dear members,

is there any specific technique /method to find out HIC HIDROGEN
INDUCED CRACKING using ultrasonic testing.


surya prakash gajjalla

ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING SERVICES.

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[MW:731] RE: 727] RE: 724] ultrasonic testing for hic

I too would like to see the copy of the manual for academic interest. Kindly
request you to put it on any good shared website.

Thanks.

Jignesh Patel

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Subject: [MW:727] RE: 724] ultrasonic testing for hic


Dear Prakash,

I have an scanned EXXON manual for "Ultrasonic detection of High Temperature
Hydrogen attack in Carbone steels". Let me know if it can serve your
purpose. I will upload it to some free server (9-10Mb approx.) like
www.4shared.com for you.

Best regards,

Muhammad Nasir Abbas
Sr. Inspection Engineer,
Fauji Fertilizer Company Limited, Mirpur Mathelo 65050, Distt. Ghotki,
Pakistan.
Ph. +92(723)652301-10 (Off: 3414), Fax. +92(723)651303, Mob. +92(333)4774047
Email: abbas_nasir@ffc.com.pk; m.nasirabbas@gmail.com
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prakash
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:56 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:724] ultrasonic testing for hic


dear members,

is there any specific technique /method to find out HIC HIDROGEN
INDUCED CRACKING using ultrasonic testing.


surya prakash gajjalla

ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING SERVICES.

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[MW:727] RE: 724] ultrasonic testing for hic

Dear Prakash,

I have an scanned EXXON manual for "Ultrasonic detection of High Temperature
Hydrogen attack in Carbone steels". Let me know if it can serve your
purpose. I will upload it to some free server (9-10Mb approx.) like
www.4shared.com for you.

Best regards,

Muhammad Nasir Abbas
Sr. Inspection Engineer,
Fauji Fertilizer Company Limited, Mirpur Mathelo 65050, Distt. Ghotki,
Pakistan.
Ph. +92(723)652301-10 (Off: 3414), Fax. +92(723)651303, Mob. +92(333)4774047
Email: abbas_nasir@ffc.com.pk; m.nasirabbas@gmail.com
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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
[mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gajjalla surya
prakash
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:56 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MW:724] ultrasonic testing for hic


dear members,

is there any specific technique /method to find out HIC HIDROGEN
INDUCED CRACKING using ultrasonic testing.


surya prakash gajjalla

ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING SERVICES.

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[MW:726] Re: ultrasonic testing for hic

Sub: UT for idfentifying cracks due to HIC
As such there is no seperate UT.
UT detects  cracks , laminations and a wide  range of  defects.
Regards,
Tagore

 
On 4/22/08, gajjalla surya prakash <gajjalla@gmail.com> wrote:

dear members,

is there any specific technique /method to find out HIC HIDROGEN
INDUCED CRACKING  using ultrasonic testing.


surya prakash gajjalla

ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING SERVICES.




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[MW:725] Re: AET type exchanger test ring

Sub: Test ring arrangement for AET type Hxr  shell side test  to verify the Tube to tube sheet joint integrity
This is not unusual. You need to use gland follower + gland ring set the same way as done for  S type to obtain  leak tight joint on OD of  floating tube sheet . Additionally the Bolt holes of  floating tube sheet need to be provided with plugs . This can be achived  by using Bolts +  rubber O ring or  Flat rubber ring gasket  placed in between the bolt head & rear side ( shell side ) face of  floating tube sheet .In this method the bolts need to be placed in to the bolt holes from rear side of  Floating tube sheet and  you can tighten the nut on to the bolt from tube side of  tube sheet i.e., from front side. The only problem is that  in the  event of  leak even at one bolt hole , we need to remove the gland ring+ follower and  attend.
In some instances  people use  solid rubber cones attached to stud , place the stud entry from rear end so that conical rubber seats on to the bolt hole on rear side of  tube sheet , tighetn the stud using a hex nut from front side. Care should be excersized  not to damage the bonding of  stud to solid rubber cone  while tightening the stud .
At present I do not possses the sketches  showing the above  arrangements. But these are  very normal practices in the industry.
 In case any more information is needed one can contact me on my mobile +966562743138 on Thursdays and  fridays.
Regards,
Tagore

 
On 4/20/08, Jignesh Patel <nacemail@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

 

I have seen few heat exchangers on this forum. I am an end user of heat exchangers in refinery. My query is related to test rings of exchangers.

 

One of our new units has AET type exchangers [pull through type]. These exchangers have a floating tubesheet [FTS] with bolt holes and the floating head cover [FHC] is directly bolted to the floating tubesheet. The problem with this is that we can't carry out shell test using a conventional test ring due to several bolt holes on the floating tubesheet. Conventional AES exchangers have backing rings pressing the FHC against the FTS.

 

I checked TEMA website and it says, test rings for such exchangers are possible and the bolt holes in the tubesheet need to be temporarily plugged. It also says refer to 4.13 (3) of TEMA. Unfortunately we don't have the latest edition of TEMA.

 

Does any one have experience with test rings [for shell test] for AET type exchangers? I would appreciate a generic drawing / scheme showing how to carry  out shell test of such exchangers.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Jignesh

Kuwait

 

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[MW:724] ultrasonic testing for hic

dear members,

is there any specific technique /method to find out HIC HIDROGEN
INDUCED CRACKING using ultrasonic testing.


surya prakash gajjalla

ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING SERVICES.

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Sunday, April 20, 2008

[MW:723] AET type exchanger test ring

Dear Friends,

 

I have seen few heat exchangers on this forum. I am an end user of heat exchangers in refinery. My query is related to test rings of exchangers.

 

One of our new units has AET type exchangers [pull through type]. These exchangers have a floating tubesheet [FTS] with bolt holes and the floating head cover [FHC] is directly bolted to the floating tubesheet. The problem with this is that we can’t carry out shell test using a conventional test ring due to several bolt holes on the floating tubesheet. Conventional AES exchangers have backing rings pressing the FHC against the FTS.

 

I checked TEMA website and it says, test rings for such exchangers are possible and the bolt holes in the tubesheet need to be temporarily plugged. It also says refer to 4.13 (3) of TEMA. Unfortunately we don’t have the latest edition of TEMA.

 

Does any one have experience with test rings [for shell test] for AET type exchangers? I would appreciate a generic drawing / scheme showing how to carry  out shell test of such exchangers.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Jignesh

Kuwait

 

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