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Re: [MW:35374] Material Certification 3.1 / 3.2/2.2--EIL India

Dear Perumal,
I answer the same but got one more question where it is written that TPI witness is mandatory?


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[MW:35374] Re: Corrosion Rate criteria for material UNS N06022 nickel alloy

Corrosion Rate required based on the process fluid,
Client has to provide


On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 3:39:50 PM UTC+5:30 Vivek wrote:
Team,
This is regarding material UNS N06022.

The corrosion Test is carried out as per ASTM G28 Method A.
The test result is 37.762 mpy (0.9592 mm/year).

May I know which standard provides acceptance criteria (range) for corrosion rate?

Regards,
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[MW:35374] Re: Material Certification 3.1 / 3.2/2.2--EIL India

Hi Team,
Can anybody tell How TPI certify material for 3.2 certification?
Is realy witness required? if Required @ which stage?

On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 2:34:35 PM UTC+5:30 israr wrote:
Hi 
Can any body respond at what stage an independent inspector witness material testing for certification of 3.2.?


On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 6:03:43 PM UTC+5:30 shaikh ahmed wrote:
Dear Friends,

Please can you advise in which EIL Standard or API standard  to find the material certification requirement  EN3.1 or 3.2 or 2.2 for Pumps ( various components) in EIL Specification.

waiting for your response.

thanks.
Ahmed

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Re: [MW:35377] Re: Material Certification 3.1 / 3.2/2.2--EIL India

Refer BS EN 10204, note TPI from purchaser

On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, 16:29 israr, <ahmedisrar.nm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Team,
Can anybody tell How TPI certify material for 3.2 certification?
Is realy witness required? if Required @ which stage?

On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 2:34:35 PM UTC+5:30 israr wrote:
Hi 
Can any body respond at what stage an independent inspector witness material testing for certification of 3.2.?


On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 6:03:43 PM UTC+5:30 shaikh ahmed wrote:
Dear Friends,

Please can you advise in which EIL Standard or API standard  to find the material certification requirement  EN3.1 or 3.2 or 2.2 for Pumps ( various components) in EIL Specification.

waiting for your response.

thanks.
Ahmed

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Re: [MW:35378] Re: Material Certification 3.1 / 3.2/2.2--EIL India

Dear friend,

EN 10204 3.1 - means - manufacturers issuing certifcate with chemical, mechnical test result by signing Quality engineer & qulaity manager 
EN 10204- 3.2 - means -  Third party agency issuing a certifcate after witnessing the chemical, mechnical test result at manaufacturer place or common lab and signing TPI witnessing  engineer with support of raw materail test certicate with heat number traceabilty.      

Regards,
Sankaran.SP
Welding & Metallurgy expert
Coimbatore, India. 


On Friday 27 December, 2024 at 05:59:44 pm IST, israr <ahmedisrar.nm@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Team,
Can anybody tell How TPI certify material for 3.2 certification?
Is realy witness required? if Required @ which stage?

On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 2:34:35 PM UTC+5:30 israr wrote:
Hi 
Can any body respond at what stage an independent inspector witness material testing for certification of 3.2.?


On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 6:03:43 PM UTC+5:30 shaikh ahmed wrote:
Dear Friends,

Please can you advise in which EIL Standard or API standard  to find the material certification requirement  EN3.1 or 3.2 or 2.2 for Pumps ( various components) in EIL Specification.

waiting for your response.

thanks.
Ahmed

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[MW:35379] MECHNICAL Testing sample

How to select sample size for mechanical testing for different material (casting , rolled plate forging)

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Re: [MW:35380] MECHNICAL Testing sample

dear sir,

for casting & forging- standard test bar is enough for conducting mechanical testing 
for plate - we can take mechanical test sepecimen size as per ASME sec IX sample picture 
 

Regards,
Sankaran.SP
Welding & Metallurgy expert
Coimbatore, India. 


On Saturday 28 December, 2024 at 11:14:09 pm IST, Chandrapal Singh <avioraio@gmail.com> wrote:


How to select sample size for mechanical testing for different material (casting , rolled plate forging)

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[MW:35382] MDR form UA1

Dear Team,
Can anybody suggest for below detail required to fill in MDR of U Stamp Pressure Vessel.
Abbreviations used:  NA-Not applicable, MOC-Material of construction, DOE-Degree of examination, RT-Radiographic test, 
H.T - Heat Treatment 
All Dimensions are in mm, Pressure in Psi(g) (MPa(g)) & Temperature in °F  (°C).
Hydrotest position is Vertical.  
Note 1- Nozzle to Shell / Head attachment weld with R.F.Pad as per Fig. UW-16.1(C-1), category 'D',Type No.7, DOE-Visual,
RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA
Note 2-Nozzle to Head attachment weld with R.F.Pad & intrnal projection as per Fig. UW-16.1(c-1), category 'D', Type No.7, 
DOE-Visual, RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA
Note 3- Nozzle to Head attachment attachment weld  as per Fig. UW-16.1(c), category 'D', Type No.7,  DOE-Visual, 
RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA  
Note 4-Nozzle to shell attachment weld with R.F.Pad as per Fig. UW-16.1(d-1), category 'D',Type No.7, DOE-Visual, 
RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA
Note 5- Nozzle to shell attachment weld as per Fig. UW-16.1(p-2), category 'D', Type No.7,  DOE-Visual, RT-None, 
Joint efficiency-NA 
Note 6 - Nozzle to flange attachment weld (Category 'C' weld) - Type No.(1), RT- exempted as per UW-11(a), DOE-Visual, 
Joint efficiency-1.00
Note 7 - Nozzle to flange attachment weld (Category 'C' weld) - Type No.(1), RT-Full as per UW-11(a), DOE-Visual, 
Joint efficiency-1.00
Vessel is under corrosive service hence Inspection Openings are provided as per UG-46(f)(3) & UG-46(g)(1)
Vessel is under corrosive service, Drain opening Nozzle N2 (DN 200) is provided as per UG-25(f).
Post Forming Heat Treatment (PFHT) exempted for Shell, Head & Manhole Neck  as per UG-79 & UCS-79.   
Post Weld Heat Treatment (PWHT) Exempted as per UW-2, UCS-56.
Impact Test is exempted as per- UG-20(f), UCS-66(a) &  FIGURE UCS-66M, UCS-66(c)' FIGURE UCS-66 GENERAL NOTE (c), 
UCS-67(a).
Special Service - None.
Over pressure protection device is not directly mounted on vessel,  Design supply of pressure safety device is not in 
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Re: [MW:35383] MDR form UA1

Dear Israr, 

The following details are necessary to be included in the "Remarks" section when preparing the Manufacturer's Data Report (MDR) for a U Stamp Pressure Vessel. Below is an interpretation and a list of suggestions based on the provided information:

Suggestions and Notes:

1. Abbreviations: Ensure abbreviations (e.g., NA, MOC, DOE, etc.) are clearly defined in the MDR for better comprehension by reviewers and inspectors.

2. Hydrotest: Specify that the hydrotest position is vertical and include this detail explicitly in the MDR under the "Hydrostatic Test Details" section.

3. Nozzle and Weld Details:

Incorporate the weld details (e.g., Category, Type, DOE, RT, and Joint Efficiency) from Notes (1 to 7) into the respective nozzle information sections of the MDR.

Ensure visual examination (DOE) records are properly documented and included.

4. Corrosive Service:

Document compliance with UG-46(f)(3) and UG-46(g)(1) for inspection openings.

Clearly state the provision of a drain opening nozzle (N2) as per UG-25(f).

5. Heat Treatments (HT):

Include exemptions for PFHT (Post Forming Heat Treatment) and PWHT (Post Weld Heat Treatment) as per UG-79, UCS-79, UW-2, and UCS-56 in the "Material and Welding" section.

6. Impact Test Exemption: Clearly reference UG-20(f), UCS-66(a), UCS-66(c), and UCS-67(a) exemptions and include supporting documentation.

7. Special Service: Indicate "None" under the "Special Service" section since the vessel is not under any special service.

8. Overpressure Protection Device: Mention that the design and supply of the overpressure protection device are outside the manufacturer's scope.

9. Design Details: Ensure the MDR includes:

Vessel design temperature and pressure.

Corrosion allowance, if applicable.

All dimensional details in the specified units (mm, Psi(g), °C).

10. Appendices: Attach all relevant documents, including reference drawings, weld maps, test records, and ASME code references (e.g., Fig. UW-16.1, UCS-66).

11. Joint Efficiency: State "NA" where not applicable and "1.00" where full joint efficiency is achieved (e.g., Category 'C' welds).

12. Supporting Calculations: Include calculations for material thickness, stress analysis, and nozzle reinforcement, as required.

Note: Verify with your design team to ensure no specific details related to design calculations or FEA analysis have been missed. Typically, the design team prepares and submits these details during the nameplate stamping and final MDR verification by the Authorized Inspector (AI).

BR, 

Deerendra 

9112146005 


On Thu, 2 Jan, 2025, 12:38 israr ahmed, <ahmedisrar.nm@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Team,
Can anybody suggest for below detail required to fill in MDR of U Stamp Pressure Vessel.
Abbreviations used:  NA-Not applicable, MOC-Material of construction, DOE-Degree of examination, RT-Radiographic test, 
H.T - Heat Treatment 
All Dimensions are in mm, Pressure in Psi(g) (MPa(g)) & Temperature in °F  (°C).
Hydrotest position is Vertical.  
Note 1- Nozzle to Shell / Head attachment weld with R.F.Pad as per Fig. UW-16.1(C-1), category 'D',Type No.7, DOE-Visual,
RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA
Note 2-Nozzle to Head attachment weld with R.F.Pad & intrnal projection as per Fig. UW-16.1(c-1), category 'D', Type No.7, 
DOE-Visual, RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA
Note 3- Nozzle to Head attachment attachment weld  as per Fig. UW-16.1(c), category 'D', Type No.7,  DOE-Visual, 
RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA  
Note 4-Nozzle to shell attachment weld with R.F.Pad as per Fig. UW-16.1(d-1), category 'D',Type No.7, DOE-Visual, 
RT-None, Joint efficiency-NA
Note 5- Nozzle to shell attachment weld as per Fig. UW-16.1(p-2), category 'D', Type No.7,  DOE-Visual, RT-None, 
Joint efficiency-NA 
Note 6 - Nozzle to flange attachment weld (Category 'C' weld) - Type No.(1), RT- exempted as per UW-11(a), DOE-Visual, 
Joint efficiency-1.00
Note 7 - Nozzle to flange attachment weld (Category 'C' weld) - Type No.(1), RT-Full as per UW-11(a), DOE-Visual, 
Joint efficiency-1.00
Vessel is under corrosive service hence Inspection Openings are provided as per UG-46(f)(3) & UG-46(g)(1)
Vessel is under corrosive service, Drain opening Nozzle N2 (DN 200) is provided as per UG-25(f).
Post Forming Heat Treatment (PFHT) exempted for Shell, Head & Manhole Neck  as per UG-79 & UCS-79.   
Post Weld Heat Treatment (PWHT) Exempted as per UW-2, UCS-56.
Impact Test is exempted as per- UG-20(f), UCS-66(a) &  FIGURE UCS-66M, UCS-66(c)' FIGURE UCS-66 GENERAL NOTE (c), 
UCS-67(a).
Special Service - None.
Over pressure protection device is not directly mounted on vessel,  Design supply of pressure safety device is not in 
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Re: [MW:35374] Material Certification 3.1 / 3.2/2.2--EIL India

Dear Perumal, I answer the same but got one more question where it is written that TPI witness is mandatory? -- https://materials-...