[MW:35320] Pipe Insert Sleeve - How to ensure after hydrotest No Water

Dear All,

Please see below picture Pipe Insert Sleeve in my site taking trial and completed hydrotest as proto type. Now how to ensure there is no water between Pipeline and insert sleeve. 

Any body have experienced in this please give feedback. 

Thanks 

Thank you, 

Regards, 

S.SENTHILKUMAR

Re: [MW:35322] Pipe Insert Sleeve - How to ensure after hydrotest No Water

Dear Mr. Aravindh,

Thank you for your reply.

How did you have ensured there is no water between sleeve insert and pipe?

This insert used not to get corrosion inside weld joint area. While performing trail we have prove that no hydrotested water entered in very tiny gap. 

Thank you, 

Regards, 

S.SENTHILKUMAR

On Tuesday 12 November, 2024 at 05:47:07 am GMT+3, s.aravindh ram <aravindhram22@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear sir,
I have worked in oman,  used this  high pressure line we will apply gloves insert this bevel joint after welding welding complete hydrotest will be conducted as per designed pressure,
After that testing we will the spool for erection.
Thankyou
Aravindh

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, 7:09 pm 'SENTHILKUMAR SWAMINATHAN' via Materials & Welding, <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear All,

Please see below picture Pipe Insert Sleeve in my site taking trial and completed hydrotest as proto type. Now how to ensure there is no water between Pipeline and insert sleeve. 

Any body have experienced in this please give feedback. 

Thanks 

Thank you, 

Regards, 

S.SENTHILKUMAR

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[MW:35324] Pipe 304L(P8) – Pipe 304L(P8)

Can  anyone provide some assistance in the issue identified below:

The details are as follows:

 

Details

Parent material Pipe 304L(P8) – Pipe 304L(P8)

Inservice temperature range – 35-85 °C

Operating Pressure – 0.4 -0.5 MPaG

Process Type – Process Condensate.

Carbonic acid – there may be the presence of carbonic acid as indicated by CGCL.

 

Approved Process

WPS# P8-P8 AR - Filler material ER308L- F6 filler metal

 

Quality Issue

ER308H rods were used instead of ER308L on two locations of the 304L piping.

 

Technical Advice Request

The client indicated that the use of the ER308H Filler Wire instead of the ER308L has a higher risk of intergranular corrosion and corrosion related issues.  

 

Please advise on the short term or long-term quality effects on the integrity of the welded joints where the ER308H filler wire were utilized.

 

Thanking you in advance.

Mark Nunes

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[MW:35325] Re: Pipe 304L(P8) – Pipe 304L(P8)

Hi Mark,

ER308H 

Carbon Content : High Carbon Content (0.04%-0.08%)

Strength : Higher strength at elevated temperature due to its carbon content, suitable for high-temperature service applications

Corrosion Resistance: Slightly reduced compared to ER308L because higher carbon content can lead to sensitization (formation of chromium carbides at grain boundaries)

Applications: Used in applications requiring creep resistance or operation at elevated temperatures, such as in power plants, boilers, and chemical plants.

ER308L

Carbon Content: Low carbon content (<0.03%).

Strength: Lower strength compared to ER308H, especially at high temperatures.

Corrosion resistance: Superior to ER308H because low carbon minimizes the risk of sensitization and intergranular corrosion, especially in as-welded conditions.

Applications: Ideal for applications where corrosion resistance is critical, such as food processing equipment, chemical tanks, and piping systems, used for welding 304L or 304-grade SS, particularly where PWHT is not feasible.

On Monday, November 18, 2024 at 8:09:22 PM UTC+8 Marco Nunes wrote:

Can  anyone provide some assistance in the issue identified below:

The details are as follows:

 

Details

Parent material Pipe 304L(P8) – Pipe 304L(P8)

Inservice temperature range – 35-85 °C

Operating Pressure – 0.4 -0.5 MPaG

Process Type – Process Condensate.

Carbonic acid – there may be the presence of carbonic acid as indicated by CGCL.

 

Approved Process

WPS# P8-P8 AR - Filler material ER308L- F6 filler metal

 

Quality Issue

ER308H rods were used instead of ER308L on two locations of the 304L piping.

 

Technical Advice Request

The client indicated that the use of the ER308H Filler Wire instead of the ER308L has a higher risk of intergranular corrosion and corrosion related issues.  

 

Please advise on the short term or long-term quality effects on the integrity of the welded joints where the ER308H filler wire were utilized.

 

Thanking you in advance.

Mark Nunes

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Re: [MW:35326] Pipe 304L(P8) – Pipe 304L(P8)

High Carbon, More chance of Chrome Depletion at boundaries (Less Creep Resistance) 

On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 8:09 PM Marco Nunes <marcovsky82@gmail.com> wrote:

Can  anyone provide some assistance in the issue identified below:

The details are as follows:

 

Details

Parent material Pipe 304L(P8) – Pipe 304L(P8)

Inservice temperature range – 35-85 °C

Operating Pressure – 0.4 -0.5 MPaG

Process Type – Process Condensate.

Carbonic acid – there may be the presence of carbonic acid as indicated by CGCL.

 

Approved Process

WPS# P8-P8 AR - Filler material ER308L- F6 filler metal

 

Quality Issue

ER308H rods were used instead of ER308L on two locations of the 304L piping.

 

Technical Advice Request

The client indicated that the use of the ER308H Filler Wire instead of the ER308L has a higher risk of intergranular corrosion and corrosion related issues.  

 

Please advise on the short term or long-term quality effects on the integrity of the welded joints where the ER308H filler wire were utilized.

 

Thanking you in advance.

Mark Nunes

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