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[MW:35633] IP Joint

Hello experts,

I would like to know what is IP joints in piping(31.3)? 

Regards
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Re: [MW:35634] Can we avoid PWHT for P No.5A to P No.1 , 10mm weld joint ?

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your explanation. 

As the vessel design based on Sec VIII Div-1, and if our client  insists to do PWHT for that joint,
 Case 1) can we do a pqr by buttering with ERNiCr-3 on P No.5A plate and butt weld with same filler for this dissimilar joint to avoid pwht.

Because,  for P no.1 , the holding temperature is about 600 deg C and for P No.5A, the holding temperature is about 675 degrees C as per Sec VIII Div1,.

Case 2) Or , when we do pwht for this joint using ER80S-B2 filler,  can we use higher holding temperature of 675 degree C .

METALLURGICALLY, is it safe ?

Please confirm. 

Thanks and Regards, 
Saravanan Sornam, 
S.KOREA 




On Fri, 23 May 2025, 8:43 pm George Dilintas, <dilintas@gmail.com> wrote:
in case the nominal base metal thickness is less than 16 mm and the specified Cr% is less than 3 (you must check the base metal MTRs) and the max C% is 0,15 (check MTR) and you apply a min preheat of 150degC then you are allowed not to perform PWHT, as per Section I
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Στις Παρ 23 Μαΐ 2025 στις 5:36 π.μ., ο/η PARAI Reaction Channel <saravanshyla@gmail.com> έγραψε:
Dear Sir, 

It is a condensate receiver tank and it is a design requirement from client side.

Regards, 
Saravanan. 
S.KOREA 

On Thu, 22 May 2025, 9:26 pm Raghuram Bathula, <raghurambathula@gmail.com> wrote:
Why do you use P22 nozzles on CS?

On Thu, 22 May 2025, 16:24 PARAI Reaction Channel, <saravanshyla@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sirs ,

 

We have a project with both shell and Reinforcement Pad materials SA516-70, 10 mm Thk ( P No.1 ) and the Nozzle is SA335-P22, 4" Sch 120 , 

11.1 mm ( P No.5A ) Thk.

 We already have a qualified WPS & PQR with 8mm GTAW and tested about 10 years ago by other welding engineer, for P No,.5A to P No.1 without PWHT and it was satisfactorily passed and we 

have used that WPS & PQR for the previous project 10 years ago and no 

issues found without PWHT.

 Now for the new project, we are going to use the same WPS and apply 

Preheat ( 204 to 250 Deg C ) as per the WPS for 10mm Shell Thk by 

multipass welding, refer to the below sketches.





So, i would like to confirm whether PWHT is mandatory as per UCS-56-4 ?

Can we avoid PWHT for this 10mm weld joint ?


Or Should we do buttering with ERNiCr-3 on P No.5A bevel and butt weld 

with same filler for this dissimilar joint to avoid PWHT after making new 

PQR with buttering?


Please confirm soon.


Thanks and Regards,

Saravanan Sornam,

ANSAN-Si,

S.Korea 

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Re: [MW:35635] IMPACT VALUE SUBSIZE

No, we can't use this wps for production material

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On Sat, 24 May, 2025, 4:14 pm Elavarasan Mech, <elavarasan1861994@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all 
please clarify below 
We have qualified WPS base metal thickness 6 mm P1 material as per ASME SEC IX 
PQR impact test carried out on (-10DEG C )Specimen size 10x3.3x55mm 
Can we use this PQR to production weld -20deg c project please guide me 

Regards 
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Re: [MW:35636] IP Joint

In essence, an IP pipe joint is any connection made between pipes that are sized using the IPS or NPS standards, regardless of the specific connection method.

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On May 24, 2025, at 9:48 PM, Saurabh Jain <ensaurabh@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello experts,

I would like to know what is IP joints in piping(31.3)? 

Regards
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Re: [MW:35637] IP Joint

Are you sure? There is no such a term in 31.3
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Στις Δευ 26 Μαΐ 2025 στις 5:00 π.μ., ο/η 'Eugene Matsko' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> έγραψε:
In essence, an IP pipe joint is any connection made between pipes that are sized using the IPS or NPS standards, regardless of the specific connection method.

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Hello experts,

I would like to know what is IP joints in piping(31.3)? 

Regards
Saurabh

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Re: [MW:35639] HARDNESS TEST

The standards referenced in API 6A are all for Brinell hardness testing
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Στις Παρ 23 Μαΐ 2025 στις 8:09 μ.μ., ο/η Deerendra Karanth <dkaranths@gmail.com> έγραψε:
Sir, 

Use Brinell or Rockwell C as per the heat treatment and material type.The test location, frequency, and acceptance criteria must comply with API 6A PSL level (usually PSL 2/3) and material class (AA, BB, CC...).

BR 
Deerendra

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Dear all
 
API6A FLANGE which hardness method recommended please guide me
Regard 
ELAVARASAN 

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Re: [MW:35640] IP Joint

Greetings,

I think 'IP' joint means 'incomplete penetration'(partial penetration) joint.




On Mon, May 26, 2025, 7:30 AM 'Eugene Matsko' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
In essence, an IP pipe joint is any connection made between pipes that are sized using the IPS or NPS standards, regardless of the specific connection method.

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Hello experts,

I would like to know what is IP joints in piping(31.3)? 

Regards
Saurabh

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Re: [MW:35641] IP Joint

Greetings,

In Saudi Aramco projects, the term "IP" refers to the Initial Production weld for piping joints. As per the requirements of SAEP-324 (Welder Performance Qualification Procedure), every welder must perform a minimum of three (3) Initial Production (IP) welds following the successful completion of their Welder Qualification Test (WQT).

This process ensures that welders not only meet qualification standards in a controlled test environment but also demonstrate their proficiency in actual site conditions before being released for production welding activities.  

Reference - SAEP-324

Best Regards
Dhana

On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 7:27 PM Ganga Prasad <gangaprasad9010@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings,

I think 'IP' joint means 'incomplete penetration'(partial penetration) joint.




On Mon, May 26, 2025, 7:30 AM 'Eugene Matsko' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
In essence, an IP pipe joint is any connection made between pipes that are sized using the IPS or NPS standards, regardless of the specific connection method.

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On May 24, 2025, at 9:48 PM, Saurabh Jain <ensaurabh@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello experts,

I would like to know what is IP joints in piping(31.3)? 

Regards
Saurabh

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Re: [MW:35642] IP Joint

Many thanks Dhana. 

I am new to Aramco project. I will go through the specs. 

Regards 
Saurabh


On Mon, 26 May 2025 at 9:28 PM, Dhanabal Jalachandran <dhanabal.jalachandrann@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings,

In Saudi Aramco projects, the term "IP" refers to the Initial Production weld for piping joints. As per the requirements of SAEP-324 (Welder Performance Qualification Procedure), every welder must perform a minimum of three (3) Initial Production (IP) welds following the successful completion of their Welder Qualification Test (WQT).

This process ensures that welders not only meet qualification standards in a controlled test environment but also demonstrate their proficiency in actual site conditions before being released for production welding activities.  

Reference - SAEP-324

Best Regards
Dhana

On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 7:27 PM Ganga Prasad <gangaprasad9010@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings,

I think 'IP' joint means 'incomplete penetration'(partial penetration) joint.




On Mon, May 26, 2025, 7:30 AM 'Eugene Matsko' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
In essence, an IP pipe joint is any connection made between pipes that are sized using the IPS or NPS standards, regardless of the specific connection method.

Sent from my iPhone

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Hello experts,

I would like to know what is IP joints in piping(31.3)? 

Regards
Saurabh

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[MW:35643] Clarification Required on Welder Qualification – P-No. 8 vs. P-No. 45 (ASME Section IX)

Hello Everyone,

I would like to clarify whether a welder who is qualified using the GTAW process on P-No. 8 material is also permitted to weld P-No. 45 material, or if a separate qualification is required for P-No. 45.

Additionally, I would appreciate it if someone could provide a brief explanation regarding the relevant table in ASME Section IX that addresses this qualification range.

Your expert input on this matter would be highly appreciated.





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[MW:35633] IP Joint

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