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Re: [MW:35784] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

is there any ref in code, pl share it THANKS & BEST REGARDS, KG.PANDITHAN, BE, IWE,  CSWIP 3.1, ISO 9712 Level 2 in VT, ASNT-Level II in PT,MT,RT & UT, LA ISO 9001-2015, ISO 3834, EN 15085,  International Welding Engineer.  CONSULTANT-WELDING & QUALITY Mobile no: +919940739349 On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 6:20 PM sridhar cn < sridharcn305@gmail.com > wrote: You need to write in the new supplementary PQR format as the hardness testing date is current. Since the old PQR results (other than hardness values- as per the standard) are the same, it is not necessary  to enclose the old PQR. But, if your client insists, please act to satisfy him. C Sridhar. On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 13:34, sridhar cn < sridharcn305@gmail.com > wrote: You can make a new, "Supplementary PQR" as it is s afer and cleaner from a compliance and transparency  standpoint.  You prepare a new PQR document with all the welding parameters repeated from the original PQR, plus the new hardness te...

[MW:35774] Filler No required for P42, P43

Dear Experts, Good day, Can you please suggest Filler / Electrode no for the following P no's 1. Monel H2 SERVICE (B165-N0440, fully annealed) - P.No 42 (Pipe size 3/4" to 6", thickness varying from 3.05mm to 5.54mm) 2. inconel HYDROGEN, NACE MR0103 ALLOY 625 B444-N06625-1 C.D. ANN (Pipe sizes 6" & 8", thickness varying from 7.11mm to 8.18mm). Construction code is ASME B31.3. Thanks & Regards N.Kiran kumar, +91- 7016029043 -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/CABQUuFg7nKMAnT%3De7xsakUtf_HYABT7v_vbvdCiBE9%3D4L5uE9w%40mail.gmail.com .

[MW:35775] Re: low temperature pipe and ASTM A106

Is there below 2'' pipe of material SA 333 Gr.6 supply in hot finish condition? On Tuesday, October 26, 2010 at 11:01:33 AM UTC+5:30 Martin Prad wrote: Hi,   What is the real difference of ASTM A333 pipe from ASTM a106grB? ASTM A333 is a low temperature CS pipe but 106 is not. What is the main features of Low temperature CS steel pipes by their chemical composition and mechanical properties? Please share your experience on this.   Martin. -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/e98e90d7-cc18-4c50-a834-bb2f39d616cbn%40googlegroups.com .

Re: [MW:35776] Re: low temperature pipe and ASTM A106

Dear    ASTM A333 and ASTM A106 are both carbon steel pipe specifications, but they serve different purposes and have distinct characteristics. ASTM A333 pipes are designed for low-temperature service, typically below -50°F (-45°C). They are made from low-temperature carbon steel and are suitable for applications where the pipes will be exposed to cold temperatures. ASTM A106 pipes, on the other hand, are suitable for high-temperature service and are often used in power plants, refineries, and other high-temperature applications. The main differences between A333 and A106 pipes are: 1.Temperature range: A333 pipes are designed for low temperatures, while A106 pipes are suitable for higher temperatures. 2. Material composition: A333 pipes have a specific chemical composition that ensures low-temperature toughness, while A106 pipes have a different composition that prioritizes high-temperature strength. 3. Mechanical properties: A333 pipes have specific requirements for impact testing an...

[MW:35777] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

Dear Experts, We have a qualified PQR (P1 to P8) that doesn't include hardness testing. We're submitting this PQR for a new project, but the client requires hardness testing. To address this, we plan to: 1. Create a new PQR following the same parameters as the original PQR. 2. Conduct hardness testing and add the results to the new PQR. We're unsure about the best approach to incorporate the hardness test results into our existing PQR documentation. We have two options: Option 1- Add the hardness values to the original PQR as Addendum-1. Option 2- Create a new PQR that includes all the previous data and name it as a Supplementary PQR. Could you please guide us on the best approach to take? Best regards Pankaj Choudhary -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto...

Re: [MW:35778] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

You can make a new, "Supplementary PQR" as it is s afer and cleaner from a compliance and transparency  standpoint.  You prepare a new PQR document with all the welding parameters repeated from the original PQR, plus the new hardness test results.              You can add a note referencing the original PQR number (i.e., "This PQR was performed under the same welding conditions as PQR-001 (provide actual details) to incorporate the hardness testing per client requirements"). C Sridhar. On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 12:21, pankaj pachahara < pankajpachahara@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Experts, We have a qualified PQR (P1 to P8) that doesn't include hardness testing. We're submitting this PQR for a new project, but the client requires hardness testing. To address this, we plan to: 1. Create a new PQR following the same parameters as the original PQR. 2. Conduct hardness testing and add the results to the new PQR. We're unsure about the best approa...

Re: [MW:35779] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

Dear Sir,  I have one doubt  For the WPS submission I have to Attach the new Supplementary PQR and old PQR together with the new WPS.  In supplementary PQR format we can just add new hardness testing values rest other testing values are already in old PQR or we need to write in new supplementary PQR format also. And we can attach old welding parameters sheet along with new supplementary PQR and in PQR format instead of PWPS no we can write Old PQR no which we are referring to. Best Regards Pankaj Choudhary  On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 1:45 PM, sridhar cn < sridharcn305@gmail.com > wrote: You can make a new, "Supplementary PQR" as it is s afer and cleaner from a compliance and transparency  standpoint.  You prepare a new PQR document with all the welding parameters repeated from the original PQR, plus the new hardness test results.              You can add a note referencing the original PQR number (i.e., "This PQR was performed under the same weldin...

Re: [MW:35780] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

Hi Pankaj Your 1. OLD PQR will be unchanged (say PQR1), which has all the variables and necessary tests completed and qualified with WPS 1 2. Supplementary PQR will have all the variables within the range of PQR1/WPS1, and the test carried out will be Hardness (as this is the requirement). Basis of welding this PQR will be WPS1 3. Revise WPS1 to add Supplementary PQR in addition to PQR1 Regards,   Prashant P Rane On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 1:25 PM pankaj pachahara < pankajpachahara@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Sir,  I have one doubt  For the WPS submission I have to Attach the new Supplementary PQR and old PQR together with the new WPS.  In supplementary PQR format we can just add new hardness testing values rest other testing values are already in old PQR or we need to write in new supplementary PQR format also. And we can attach old welding parameters sheet along with new supplementary PQR and in PQR format instead of PWPS no we can write Old PQR no which we are referring to. B...

Re: [MW:35781] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

Just to add, Supplementary  PQR will always be a part of PQR package containing the Original PQR Number with the supplementary indicator when you submit your WPS for Approval. It also includes the As-run sheet & the Hardness test Results. Instead of using a Proposed WPS, you can use the original Approved WPS to weld(depends on Client). Thanks & Regards J.Gerald Jayakumar 0091-8838619635 On Thursday 28 August, 2025 at 01:45:34 pm IST, sridhar cn <sridharcn305@gmail.com> wrote: You can make a new, "Supplementary PQR" as it is s afer and cleaner from a compliance and transparency  standpoint.  You prepare a new PQR document with all the welding parameters repeated from the original PQR, plus the new hardness test results.  ...

Re: [MW:35781] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

You need to write in the new supplementary PQR format as the hardness testing date is current. Since the old PQR results (other than hardness values- as per the standard) are the same, it is not necessary  to enclose the old PQR. But, if your client insists, please act to satisfy him. C Sridhar. On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 13:34, sridhar cn < sridharcn305@gmail.com > wrote: You can make a new, "Supplementary PQR" as it is s afer and cleaner from a compliance and transparency  standpoint.  You prepare a new PQR document with all the welding parameters repeated from the original PQR, plus the new hardness test results.              You can add a note referencing the original PQR number (i.e., "This PQR was performed under the same welding conditions as PQR-001 (provide actual details) to incorporate the hardness testing per client requirements"). C Sridhar. On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 12:21, pankaj pachahara < pankajpachahara@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Ex...

[MW:35783] Incoloy 800H / N08810

Dear expert. I have this question. My client is looking for Incoloy 800H, which must be NACE MR0175 Part 3 compliant. he wants our issue MTC with NACE. Isn't incoloy 800H just satisfied with NACE. I only saw Carbon steel marked with NACE, but never seen NACE mark on SS. Can anyone with knowledge explain this Best -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/d21594a7-f3e6-4fbc-9408-fc420aedd166n%40googlegroups.com .

Re: [MW:35785] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

Dear sir,    As it is client requirement, and every client has its own specifications. In Aramco SAES-W-010 para 7.5.2 is asking to weld a coupon to comply all essential requirements of the PQR and conduct only hardness testing. But you have better experience and your observation will be beneficial. Best Regards, BILAL CHAUHADRY On Fri, 29 Aug 2025, 09:19 Kannayeram Gnanapandithan, < kgpandithan@gmail.com > wrote: is there any ref in code, pl share it THANKS & BEST REGARDS, KG.PANDITHAN, BE, IWE,  CSWIP 3.1, ISO 9712 Level 2 in VT, ASNT-Level II in PT,MT,RT & UT, LA ISO 9001-2015, ISO 3834, EN 15085,  International Welding Engineer.  CONSULTANT-WELDING & QUALITY Mobile no: +919940739349 On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 6:20 PM sridhar cn < sridharcn305@gmail.com > wrote: You need to write in the new supplementary PQR format as the hardness testing date is current. Since the old PQR results (other than hardness values- as per the standard) are the same, it is not necessar...

Re: [MW:35786] Request for Guidance on PQR Update

Please refer to ASME sec IX - QW-200.2 & QW-401.1. While ASME IX does not explicitly use the term "supplementary PQR", industry practice is to weld a new coupon  with the same WPS variables, which is issued as a new PQR; i.e., o ne cannot add hardness test results to the original  PQR, because that would not represent the same coupon. You must weld a new coupon and issue a new PQR with  hardness results, and cross-reference the original PQR if traceability is required . C Sridhar. On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 at 11:49, Kannayeram Gnanapandithan < kgpandithan@gmail.com > wrote: is there any ref in code, pl share it THANKS & BEST REGARDS, KG.PANDITHAN, BE, IWE,  CSWIP 3.1, ISO 9712 Level 2 in VT, ASNT-Level II in PT,MT,RT & UT, LA ISO 9001-2015, ISO 3834, EN 15085,  International Welding Engineer.  CONSULTANT-WELDING & QUALITY Mobile no: +919940739349 On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 6:20 PM sridhar cn < sridharcn305@gmail.com > wrote: You need to write in...

Re: [MW:35787] Incoloy 800H / N08810

Hi,     NACE MR0175-3 describes requirements of corrosion resistant alloys, which covers Inconel alloys.  Regards, Mr. Harish. On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 at 09:39, King Captain < myrosecaptain@gmail.com > wrote: Dear expert. I have this question. My client is looking for Incoloy 800H, which must be NACE MR0175 Part 3 compliant. he wants our issue MTC with NACE. Isn't incoloy 800H just satisfied with NACE. I only saw Carbon steel marked with NACE, but never seen NACE mark on SS. Can anyone with knowledge explain this Best -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/d21594a7-f3e6-4fbc-9408-fc420ae...

[MW:35763] Hardness range for CS+ Alloy0625 clad welding

Dear experts. I am currently in the process of qualifying a PQR for API 5L X65 + A350 LF6. Both material consists of a base metal with alloy 0625 cladding. Welding process: GTAW+SMAW During the mechanical testing, I witnessed the following hardness values: Clad material: 300 to 390 HV Weld metal: 280 to 350 HV This is for Aramco project, so I referred their standard 01-SAMSS-044, and it specifies that I must refer to NACE MR0175/ISO 15156 for hardness acceptance criteria, particularly for the clad. I have reviewed the standard but cannot find a specific acceptable hardness range. I also checked Aramco's W-11/W-12 and W-16 standards but was unable to find the maximum allowable hardness for clad welding. My question is: Are these recorded hardness values for the clad and weld metal acceptable under the NACE MR0175/ISO 15156 standard? If not, what are the typical hardness limitations and under which standard? Regards  Saurabh Jain -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ ...

[MW:35764] need to clarify some sentences in the AWS D1.1 2025 edition

Dear Sir, I need to clarify some sentences  in the AWS D1.1 2025 edition 1. table 6.6   PQR essential variable changes.. for voltage > 07 %, current  >10% increase or decrease......if  PQR qualified range 26 to 28 V and 170 to 180 A  then how much value we can keep for min to max for range qualification, either consider higher side value or lower side value 2. For CVN test min thick qualification 1 2 mm to unlimited   for 25 mm thick weld coupon plate but  we need below 12 mm plate thick qualification we have taken 06 mm weld coupon plate thick. but standard mentioned... minimum thickness qualification 03 mm   we need 03 mm thick ness to unlimited thickness QUALIFICATION what should do..   a)  either required two weld coupons 25 mm and 06 mm thickness those 25 mm weld coupons complete the limite 12 mm to unlimited and 06 mm weld coupons complete the limite 2T that is 03 mm to 12 mm Thick.... Please clear this concern..                 Thanks You                    Mr. Kr...

Re: [MW:35765] need to clarify some sentences in the AWS D1.1 2025 edition

Below information is for your clarification, If you qualify with  26- 28 voltage the range of qualification for voltage is 24.18 - 29.96V and Current 153A - 198A. For CVN for 25mm range of qualification is 12 to unlimited. For 6mm range of qualification is 6mm to 12mm. Inorder to cover from 3mm, We need weld one coupon whose thickness is less than 6mm then (Eg: 5.9) it will cover from 3 mm to 11.8mm. On Wed, 20 Aug 2025, 6:34 pm krishna magdum, < magdumkrishna9@gmail.com > wrote: Dear Sir, I need to clarify some sentences  in the AWS D1.1 2025 edition 1. table 6.6   PQR essential variable changes.. for voltage > 07 %, current  >10% increase or decrease......if  PQR qualified range 26 to 28 V and 170 to 180 A  then how much value we can keep for min to max for range qualification, either consider higher side value or lower side value 2. For CVN test min thick qualification 1 2 mm to unlimited   for 25 mm thick weld coupon plate but  we need below 12 mm plate thick qualifica...

[MW:35767] ASME SEC IX

Dear all  Please clarify below  We have qualified WPS range ( 7.62 to 15.24) with impact ( pipe 3 inch sch80 )  Material grade A333 gr6 +A350 LF2  For WQT we select 2 inch pipe A106 Gr B wall thickness 10 mm  ( maximum deposited thickness 20 mm) as per ASME sec IX it's acceptable or not .please confirm the selection of WQT material and thickness range  Regards  ELAVARASAN -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/materials-welding/CAJ9L4yn5iJ1Er5xjnAgeVBVioi6djNBjwBTkN3vLp1fm%3DmKjNA%40mail.gmail.com .

Re: [MW:35768] ASME SEC IX

It's acceptable to use. Range of qualifications as be the deposited need to follow. There is no issues as long as you follow the WPS thickness requirements and deposited weld metal requirements.  On Fri, 22 Aug 2025, 11:05 am Elavarasan Mech, < elavarasan1861994@gmail.com > wrote: Dear all  Please clarify below  We have qualified WPS range ( 7.62 to 15.24) with impact ( pipe 3 inch sch80 )  Material grade A333 gr6 +A350 LF2  For WQT we select 2 inch pipe A106 Gr B wall thickness 10 mm  ( maximum deposited thickness 20 mm) as per ASME sec IX it's acceptable or not .please confirm the selection of WQT material and thickness range  Regards  ELAVARASAN -- https://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups/122787 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Materials & Welding" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to materials-welding+unsubsc...