Wednesday, January 31, 2018

Re: [MW:27306] What is the allowable inner penetration during pipe wedling

There are lot of Factors involved in Radiography to determine the Density Variation for the ID penetration depth. Moreover you use a Double wall viewing and it is very difficult to determine.

Other methods include

1. Boroscopy
2. Ball run Test. A steel ball with the required diameter shall be passed through the tubes and determine the depth of penetration.

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On Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 2:52:31 PM GMT+4, 'Sankaran Sp' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Dear Experts,

During pipe to pipe welding by single V butt joint by GTAW process (example : 1" XXS P91 pipe), there is a weld reinforcement over the groove and maintained 2 to3 mm of height, such a way ID penetration is also there. How much of height ID penetration is allowed? which is to be checked by RT exam. Kindly clarify and give me any supporting/ document  reference.

Regards, 

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[MW:27305] What is the allowable inner penetration during pipe wedling

Dear Experts,

During pipe to pipe welding by single V butt joint by GTAW process (example : 1" XXS P91 pipe), there is a weld reinforcement over the groove and maintained 2 to3 mm of height, such a way ID penetration is also there. How much of height ID penetration is allowed? which is to be checked by RT exam. Kindly clarify and give me any supporting/ document  reference.

Regards, 

Sankaran.SP
Welding & Metallurgy expert
Coimbatore, India

Re: [MW:27304] stainless steel purging requirements



Hello
Nadeem,

 Backing Gas Purge Times for Stainless Steel Pipe
Nominal Pipe Size
Purge Time (minimum)
2 inch NS
0.5 minutes
4
2 minutes
6
4 minutes
8
7 minutes
10
10 minutes
12
15 minutes
16
25 minutes
Assumes use of argon gas at a flow rate of 20 CFH (9 lpm).
Listed times are for each 300 mm of pipe length to be purged (multiply by actual length). Use the values for 300 mm for any shorter length.

as per standards ASME
In order to obtain a suitably smooth,
uniform under side weld surface without crevices or oxidation,
a purge must be established using a suitable protective
gas. Since the second and third passes in the joint may
take the previously deposited consumable insert root pass
above the oxidizing temperature of the base and filler metal,
it may be necessary to maintain the purge until three layers
or 3⁄16 in. (4.8 mm) root thickness is obtained.

most cases ,refer to project specifications  from client (DGS)

T&R

Shyamal 


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I need help regarding the reference from international standards for purging of stainless steel and alloy steel welding.

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[MW:27303] stainless steel purging requirements

Dear Friends

I need help regarding the reference from international standards for purging of stainless steel and alloy steel welding.

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Sunday, January 28, 2018

Re: [MW:27300] P number for IS 2062grade E 350

Its ASME committee which considers each material and decides if it can be included in code. May be they have not taken up Gr 350. Several reasons, may be they were not asked, may be no time, may be relevant details not given, may be considered and not acceptable to asme commitee. In case any body is interested, a request may be made to materials commitee.

Rgds
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ASME section IX does not specify P number of Is 2062grade E350. It specifies P number for grade E 250.

Any guess  why only 1 grade of IS2062 is included in ASME?

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[MW:27299] P number for IS 2062grade E 350

ASME section IX does not specify P number of Is 2062grade E350. It specifies P number for grade E 250.

Any guess why only 1 grade of IS2062 is included in ASME?

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Saturday, January 27, 2018

Re: [MW:27298] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

Dear Ajay 

Forging can be machined to required size of nozzle. Ideally manufacturers facility does permit nozzle weld overlay, they prefer to go ahead with SS pipe.

Regards 
Sudhir 

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On 26 Jan 2018, at 8:25 AM, 'manish kulkarni' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Pl check project engineering specs
Is it allowed to have nozzle material to weld on classes shell?
If allowed, better to use heavy schedule pipe.

Manish Kulkarni 


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On Thursday, January 25, 2018, 5:06 PM, Raghuram Bathula <raghurambathula@gmail.com> wrote:

why don't use pipe?

On 25 January 2018 at 16:58, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


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RE: [MW:27297] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

To All.

 

Please read through the extracts from ASME Sec-VIII, DIV-1. I would think machining a hollow pipe section from a solid bar stock would not be technically acceptable due to the highlighted clauses as below.

Also the manufacturing routes of seamless pipes and solid bar stocks are different. Seamless pipes are made by "Pilgering"(ref SA312 for example) while solid bars are made by forging.

 

Notes for pipes the starting material could be solid bar stock however the pipes have to be to heat treated following manufacturing. Technically there would be incompatibility of properties , such as flow of grains influencing the mechanical properties.

 

In view of the above clauses and so many technical ifs and buts  it would be worthwhile to stick to the option of seamless stainless pipes, which should be available plenty ex stock in anywhere.

 

This matter should be discussed and proceeded only after discussion with the ASME /Authorised inspector.

 

Thanks.

 

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UG-14 RODS AND BARS

(a) Rod and bar stock may be used in pressure vessel construction for pressure parts such as flange rings, stiffening rings, frames for reinforced openings, stays and stay‐bolts, and similar parts. Rod and bar materials shall conform to the requirements for bars or bolting in the applicable part of Subsection C.

 

(b) Except for flanges of all types, hollow cylindrically shaped parts [up to and including NPS 4 (DN 100)] may be machined from rod or bar, provided that the axial length of the part is approximately parallel to the metal flow lines of the stock.This is an important point to note.

 

 

UCS-12 BARS AND SHAPES

(a) Approved specifications for bar and shape materials of carbon steel are given in Table UCS-23. A tabulation of allowable stress values at different temperatures are given in Table 1A of Section II, Part D.

(b) Bolt materials as described in UCS-10 may be used as bar materials.

(c) Parts made from bars, on which welding is done, shall be of material for which a P‐Number for procedure qualification is given in Section IX, QW‐422 (see UW-5).

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gurunathan R
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Hi Ajay,

 

Yes it is acceptable to use forged rod as nozzle refer UG-14 of ASME SEC VIII Div.1

 

 

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why don't use pipe?

 

On 25 January 2018 at 16:58, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Gents,

 

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

 

Background: 

Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

 

Query:

 

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

 

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku

 

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Re: [MW:27296] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

Hi , 
In another way ,

Nowadays lots of technology come up for Weld overlay of 2 inch and lesser diameter from fronius and polysude .

We need to use the particular TIG torch if the vendor holds cladding machine.

Alternatively ... you can proceed with SS forged material as long as material is properly tested with IGC and material MTC is enclosed from the mill with all heat number details and need to do PMI on material before welded with vessel.
This is an additional information only.

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On 26-Jan-2018, at 4:35 PM, Ramin Kondori <raminkondori@gmail.com> wrote:

Of course... it is acceptable...


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On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:28 PM, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


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Friday, January 26, 2018

Re: [MW:27295] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

Of course... it is acceptable...


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On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:28 PM, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


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Re: [MW:27294] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

Procurement confirms non availability of pipe matl readily and the lead time will be 12 weeks.


On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Raghuram Bathula
<raghurambathula@gmail.com> wrote:
why don't use pipe?

On 25 January 2018 at 16:58, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


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Re: [MW:27293] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

Pl check project engineering specs
Is it allowed to have nozzle material to weld on classes shell?
If allowed, better to use heavy schedule pipe.

Manish Kulkarni 


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why don't use pipe?

On 25 January 2018 at 16:58, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


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Re: [MW:27290] Thickness Tolerance

Hi,
Please refer Sectuion VIII - Div.1 - UG 16 (c) - Mill under tolerance: 0.25mm or 6% of the thickness ordered. But in any case it should be more than the design thickness.

Thanks& Regards,

 

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On Thursday, January 25, 2018, 8:26:46 PM GMT+7, pradip kumar Sil <pradipsil@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear Everybody,
Can anybody inform me how much mill tolerance thickness is acceptable for Plate material with code reference as per ASME.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
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Thursday, January 25, 2018

Re: [MW:27290] Thickness Tolerance

Hi Pradip,

For Carbon steel plates refer ASME Sec II PART A, SA-20 para 14

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Can anybody inform me how much mill tolerance thickness is acceptable for Plate material with code reference as per ASME.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [MW:27290] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

Hi Ajay,

Yes it is acceptable to use forged rod as nozzle refer UG-14 of ASME SEC VIII Div.1



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On Jan 25, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Raghuram Bathula <raghurambathula@gmail.com> wrote:

why don't use pipe?

On 25 January 2018 at 16:58, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


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[MW:27289] Thickness Tolerance

Dear Everybody,
Can anybody inform me how much mill tolerance thickness is acceptable for Plate material with code reference as per ASME.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
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Re: [MW:27288] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

why don't use pipe?

On 25 January 2018 at 16:58, 'DOKKU AJAY' via Materials & Welding <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


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[MW:27287] SS Forged Bar machined to make Pipe for Nozzles Fabrication

Gents,

I have the following query. Appreciate if someone can guide on this:

Background: 
Cladded Vessel, Nozzle of Size 2", MOC: CS+SS Cladd/ Overlay, Code of Construction: Sex.VIII Div.1 : Vendor confirms that they cannot do weld overlay of 2" and less size. Alternative confirmed by vendor is to machine the Forged Bar to make 2" SS Pipe. Our Engineering has accepted the replacement of material from engineer point of view i.e from CS+SS Overlay to SS Matl.

Query:

Is it acceptable from code point of view to used forged item for manufacturing of Nozzle pipe.

Regards,

Ajay Kumar Dokku


Wednesday, January 24, 2018

Re: [MW:27286] Mixture Gas Ar/N2

Hi

Please check the gas purity 
Also try to use oxygen monitor  with least count 0.01 
Try to maintain Oxygen content less than 100 ppm if possible 

Shyamal 




On 24 Jan 2018 8:11 am, "Rems Okonkwo" <rems.okonkwo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

The Porosity could be due to one of the following issues.

1. The purity of the gas. You need to get your gas from trusted and reputable manufacturer. Ensure you are given high purify gas mixture

2. You need to have an analyser to analyse the Oxygen content inside the pipe and this need to be there for at least 4 passes.

3. You need to clean the weld joint area with acetone.

4. You may apply drying of the joint with hot air blower.

5. Welding should be done in an enclose restricted area to reduce wind draught.

Regards.

Rems 
IWE Nigeria

On 23 Jan 2018 14:09, "Welding and material" <koswaraabi@gmail.com> wrote:
My name is Abi, I've the problem about mixture gas Ar/N2, each my welder performed welding on te Material DSS which used mixture gas Ar/N2, always occured porosity on each welded. Does it mix gas can cause porosity defect ???????????????

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[MW:27285] Welding of uPVC Profiles

Dear Experts,

I am welding uPVC profiles (Thickness 2-3 mm and width 65-70mm) for making doors & windows and after welding at corner joints, the joints are getting cracked at the corner.

The parameters which we are currently following are as follows:

Temp: 245+,- 5deg C
Welding Time: 30 sec
Heating time: 30 sec
Welding Pressure: 6 Bar
Clamping Pressure: 4.5bar

Please advice to join the crack free weld.

Thank you in advance.

With Kind Regards,

Amit Kumar Singh
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Re: [MW:27284] PQR PMI - Fe value

Its prob with instrument used for chemical analysis
Plz test with oes, inform lab to use calibration block for ni alloy (inconel 625) before testing
Yr specimen will be showing req values for %Fe

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RE: [MW:27283] 17-4PH welding( Double aged H1150)

Provide hardness of base metal haha haz & weld metal for further analysis
What was the interpass temp

How much gtaw & smaw weld thickness deposited

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Tuesday, January 23, 2018

Re: [MW:27281] Mixture Gas Ar/N2

Hello,

The Porosity could be due to one of the following issues.

1. The purity of the gas. You need to get your gas from trusted and reputable manufacturer. Ensure you are given high purify gas mixture

2. You need to have an analyser to analyse the Oxygen content inside the pipe and this need to be there for at least 4 passes.

3. You need to clean the weld joint area with acetone.

4. You may apply drying of the joint with hot air blower.

5. Welding should be done in an enclose restricted area to reduce wind draught.

Regards.

Rems 
IWE Nigeria

On 23 Jan 2018 14:09, "Welding and material" <koswaraabi@gmail.com> wrote:
My name is Abi, I've the problem about mixture gas Ar/N2, each my welder performed welding on te Material DSS which used mixture gas Ar/N2, always occured porosity on each welded. Does it mix gas can cause porosity defect ???????????????

Thanks

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[MW:27280] RE: 27277] Mixture Gas Ar/N2

Abi,

 

If premixed gases are procured from reputed manufacturers , it should not be a concern. What's the gas mix: Ar+2% N2 or Ar+5%N2 ?

Higher percentage of Nitrogen in the gas mix may cause porosities in DSS welds. Also there are many other factors also, which could cause porosities in DSS welds. One has to see everything in totality.

 

Thanks.

 

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Subject: [MW:27277] Mixture Gas Ar/N2

 

My name is Abi, I've the problem about mixture gas Ar/N2, each my welder performed welding on te Material DSS which used mixture gas Ar/N2, always occured porosity on each welded. Does it mix gas can cause porosity defect ???????????????

Thanks

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RE: [MW:27281] 17-4PH welding( Double aged H1150)

Hi Daniel,

 

Several questions:

1.      Your photo shows 4 coupons, not just 1 coupon.  Please explain.

2.      What were the welding preheat and interpass temperatures?

3.      If the test coupon is only 1-1/2-inches thick, why was the PWHT soak time 4 hours?

4.      Since the PWHT soak time was 1150 oF, the coupon must have been an ASME P-No. 1 carbon steel.  What is the coupon's ASTM classification (e. g. SA-516-70)?

5.      The bend in the coupon implies uneven cooling, top to bottom.

6.      What were the maximum heating and cooling rates during PWHT?

7.      Did the coupon undergo PWHT in a furnace for equal heating and cooling on both sides?

8.      Or were electric resistance heaters employed?

 

Regards,

Dennis Thompson

 

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Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:31 AM
To: Materials & Welding
Subject: [MW:27277] 17-4PH welding( Double aged H1150)

 

Dear Experts,

 

We had qualification with GTAW and SMAW (manual process) on 1.5" thick test coupon . to prepare build up welding procedure . our test coupon got Post weld heat treatment at 1150°F for 4 hours ( without solution annealing ) . 

Test got failed at the  first step for side bend ( see attached picture ). 

I`m looking for a reason or reasons  of this failure .

Do you think the reason should came from , not perform solution annealing on the test coupon ? or something else should be reason !

 

Cheers, 

DW

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My name is Abi, I've the problem about mixture gas Ar/N2, each my welder performed welding on te Material DSS which used mixture gas Ar/N2, always occured porosity on each welded. Does it mix gas can cause porosity defect ???????????????

Thanks

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Monday, January 22, 2018

[MW:27277] 17-4PH welding( Double aged H1150)

Dear Experts,


We had qualification with GTAW and SMAW (manual process) on 1.5" thick test coupon . to prepare build up welding procedure . our test coupon got Post weld heat treatment at 1150°F for 4 hours ( without solution annealing ) . 

Test got failed at the  first step for side bend ( see attached picture ). 

I`m looking for a reason or reasons  of this failure .

Do you think the reason should came from , not perform solution annealing on the test coupon ? or something else should be reason !


Cheers, 

DW

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[MW:27276] PQR PMI - Fe value

Hi Mohamed,

 

In addition to the response of Harish Kannepalli, some additional information may be of help.

·         Check the calibration and accuracy of the equipment used.

·         Whether it's OES or XRF, equipment precision and proper calibration is essential.

·         It's desired that the calibration block should match or be closer to the chemistry of the material being tested.

·         Also , the time of exposure, shorter exposure time for measurement could be erratic, and there could have variations in the reading.

·         It's advisable to take multiple reading with longer exposure time and then to report the average.

 

It would be good to know, if the suggestions as above solved your problem or not.

 

Thanks.

 

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Welding & Metallurgical Specialist

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harish Kannepalli
Sent: January 22, 2018 12:00 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:27275] PQR PMI - Fe value

 

Hi,

   Please consider testing Fe using OES, as PMI values are not reliable for pass/fail criteria.

Thanks & Regards,
Harish

 

On Jan 22, 2018 08:57, "Mohamed Ali" <marb8389@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Experts 

 

can you advise me for the below clarifications,

 

We have Done the PQR as mentioned below material and after PQR the test piece measured the PMI value and all chemical composition are meet the Sec-2 C requirement except Fe value, please explain why it is happen and provide some technical data.

 

Base metal  - ASTM A312 TP 304L to ASTM A312 TP 304L

 

Electrode :  - ER NiCr-3

 

SFA 5.14 - Actual Fe - 3% Max  & measured value - 8.83%

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Mohamed Ali.

 

 

 

 

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[MW:35346] Cast-iron welding

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