Saturday, January 31, 2015

[MW:22782] Useing wrong Flux in welding with SAW

Pelase inform what wire are you using, and what construction code, do you have impact requierements?

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Re: [MW:22780] Impact test requirement for PED 97/23/EC



Rgds
G.Prakash
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Kwangju Moon <xumker@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear experts,

Please clarify below questions.

Back Ground:

-       Applicable construction code: ASME Sec. VIII, Div.1

-       Material : SA516-70N (35mm)

-       Equipment's MDMT: -20

-       The client request that impact testing shall comply with the code of construction and in accordance with PED 97/23/EC Annex 1, Para 7.5.

 

Question 1):

Shall we have to perform the impact test on this material in accordance with PED requirement even impact test is exempted as per UCS-66, ASME Sec. VIII Div.1?

 

YES​ for material.

 

Question 2):

When the impact test is required as per PED, should we have to use WPS with applying all supplementary essential requirements for weld joint?


​Follow ASME code requirement​
 

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[MW:22781] Useing wrong Flux in welding with SAW

Dear Experts

Our production department used wrong Flux in welding with SAW process ,please give me idea about it

in WPS mentioned Lincoln 880M and they used Lincoln 880  ...material is API 5l X65 to API 5L X65.

please give a idea about this issue , and let me know if ASME section 9 has a way to confirm this issue .

Thanks

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Friday, January 30, 2015

[MW:22778] Re: SA 517 Gr F - forming

Hi Amol,

answering the cold forming intermidiate HT question, it depends on the determined fibre elongation. If your sphere fibre elongation is 5% and less, only cold forming is required before welding and if your fibre elongation is above 5% cold forming and intermidiate HT shall be applied. It is also advised to determine if PWHT is required since you are dealing with critical material (SA 517 Gr. F). I recommend that you consult ASME code to determine the fibre elongation.

On Friday, January 2, 2015 at 10:26:08 AM UTC+2, amol wrote:

we have to make a sphere from crown petal construction.Material SA 517 Gr F. UTS 790-820MPa. cold forming will be done
whether this will require intermediate heat treatment to avoid formation of cracking?
If so when/at which stage of forming it has to be carried out?

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[MW:22779] Impact test requirement for PED 97/23/EC

Dear experts,

Please clarify below questions.

Back Ground:

-       Applicable construction code: ASME Sec. VIII, Div.1

-       Material : SA516-70N (35mm)

-       Equipment's MDMT: -20

-       The client request that impact testing shall comply with the code of construction and in accordance with PED 97/23/EC Annex 1, Para 7.5.

 

Question 1):

Shall we have to perform the impact test on this material in accordance with PED requirement even impact test is exempted as per UCS-66, ASME Sec. VIII Div.1?

 

Question 2):

When the impact test is required as per PED, should we have to use WPS with applying all supplementary essential requirements for weld joint?

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Thursday, January 29, 2015

[MW:22777] Re: Structural WPS as per IS 7307

You have to prepare two WPS for thicknesss of 10 mm and 20 mm. it will be ccover your required thickness range. 
Position can be taken depend upon mfg. or drawing requirement.

On Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:35:30 UTC+5:30, Akshith wrote:
Dear Experts,

Kindly suggest for preparation of structural WPS as per IS 7307, my structural steel thickness range is 4.7mm to 40 mm.
Please suggest thickness range and positions are to be qualified as per IS 7307 & IS 7310.


Regards,

Akshith.

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[MW:22776] Columbium Requirement in SA516-SA20

Dear Experts,

Today I went through one MTC review for ASME SA516 in Mfr shop (the end user is a refinery).

Where I found the Columbium 0.05. The table 1 of SA20 limits the columbium for heat analysis to Max 0.02% however the Note Dallows that to be 0.05%. based on an agreement between purchaser and supplier.

The vendor says they are purchaser and they have agreed with supplier so "it should be acceptable". They have purchased the material out of stock.

 

Could I ask your kind opinion about this? Can I accept the material?

 

More details:

There is no favour neither any objection about this requirement from client.

The purchaser field in the MTC says: "To whome so ever it may concern"

mfr has purchased the material from A Steel Trading Co.

The certificate is EN10204-3.2 witnessed by TPI.

The certification statement says " the material manufactured and tested according to the requirements specified in the order"

 
With Best Regards,
Umar Rashid Makrani, PMP® ,
 API653, NACE CIP-2, LEEA Registered Engineer.

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[MW:22775] Structural WPS as per IS 7307

Dear Experts,

Kindly suggest for preparation of structural WPS as per IS 7307, my structural steel thickness range is 4.7mm to 40 mm.
Please suggest thickness range and positions are to be qualified as per IS 7307 & IS 7310.


Regards,

Akshith.

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[MW:22774] Welding process and for what thickness which welding is suitable

Dear

Can anyone please explain with process reference code welding process types and for what thickness is it applicable to weld

Regards

Kk

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Re: [MW:22773] GTAW + SMAW

Hi jay ,

Refer ASME Sec IX QW- 202.2 (C) , ofcourse you have to write a WPS Separately for SMAW for Fillet Welds, with the same PQR No.

Regards ,
Saravanan.



On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:44 PM, <george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com> wrote:

normally yes

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Wednesday, January 28, 2015

Re: [MW:22772] GTAW + SMAW

normally yes

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Re: [MW:22771] GTAW + SMAW

Using AWS  code NO. Using ASME  yes you have to write a new WPS  for single process.


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Date:28/01/2015 17:05 (GMT+08:00)
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Subject: [MW:22769] GTAW + SMAW

Dear Experts,

Please clarify. If I have qualified a procedure with combination process i.e GTAW+SMAW for groove joint, then using this procedure can I allow to weld fillet joints using SMAW.



cordially,
Jay Poojary

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[MW:22769] GTAW + SMAW

Dear Experts,

Please clarify. If I have qualified a procedure with combination process i.e GTAW+SMAW for groove joint, then using this procedure can I allow to weld fillet joints using SMAW.



cordially,
Jay Poojary

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Re: [MW:22769] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...

Good analysis. Thnks for sharing. Agree that there is no question of stringent between stds. Each has some basis and needs to be complied

Rgds
Prakash. G.
Independent Consultant. ASME/ISO/PED
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Subject: RE: [MW:22768] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...

Hi,

Prepare the Gap analysis covering all the essential & non-essential parameters. Highlight the difference as stated in below emails.

It is not recommended to say which code is more stringent than the other. Please be specific with your application and type of testing the weld joint requires for particular operating and design temperature and load.

 

Consider the attached files as reference for preparing Gap analysis. This is prepared for "Norsok M101 against AWS D1.1". (Note: Norsok M101 is application guidelines, based on EN 15614-1.)

 

Rgds

Vijay Tayade.

 

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Subject: Re: [MW:22767] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...

 

EN 15614 is more stringent followed by ASME and AWS in order.  



Type and no. tests depend up on material thickness and other 

variable parameters.



Towards AWS, you can  use ASME  PQR as a pre approved document also.



But, U could be more specific .


C Sridhar.

Technical Adviser - Welding,
for Alsta Pristine Engineering Private Limited,. Bangalore
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Mobile nos: 0 94449 71097, 0 7406 326326, 0 94445 21267.

 

 

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From: Umar Rashid Makrani <firoz.makrani@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, 26 January 2015 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:22762] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...

 

Dear Abdul Ghani,

Make a list of all essential variables, testing requirements and acceptance criteria, check whether single testing can be done? if not you may have to create multiple samples (make sure you weld a coupon big enough). now weld the coupon as per required size and test according to multiple code/standard requirements and prepare multiple Records. Good Luck.

Please update the forum about the results.

Expect the experts to comments.


 

With Best Regards,
Umar Rashid Makrani, PMP
® ,

NACE CIP-2, LEEA Registered Engineer.

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Mohammed Ghani <ghani386@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear sir,

 

I have to prepare a single PQR using ASME, AWS and EN 15614. can we prepare such PQR ?

if yes, please let me know which are the main points need to considered. like (thickness, P Number, Group Number, Impact testing). which code is more stringent?

 

also if possible, refer a code. 

Kindly do needful.

 

Thanks and regards,

Mohammed Ghani.

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:50 PM, <george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com> wrote:

please be more specific

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Subject: [MW:22758] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...
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Dear experts,

can we prepare as PQR based on ASME, AWS, and EN standards?
If yes, then which are the qualifications (limits) and test are differs with respect to ASME standards,

Kindly do needful.

Mohammed Ghani

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RE: [MW:22768] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...

Hi,

Prepare the Gap analysis covering all the essential & non-essential parameters. Highlight the difference as stated in below emails.

It is not recommended to say which code is more stringent than the other. Please be specific with your application and type of testing the weld joint requires for particular operating and design temperature and load.

 

Consider the attached files as reference for preparing Gap analysis. This is prepared for "Norsok M101 against AWS D1.1". (Note: Norsok M101 is application guidelines, based on EN 15614-1.)

 

Rgds

Vijay Tayade.

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 12:05 AM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:22767] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...

 

EN 15614 is more stringent followed by ASME and AWS in order.  



Type and no. tests depend up on material thickness and other 

variable parameters.



Towards AWS, you can  use ASME  PQR as a pre approved document also.



But, U could be more specific .


C Sridhar.

Technical Adviser - Welding,
for Alsta Pristine Engineering Private Limited,. Bangalore
( SS, AL fabricators & A venture of Advance Eng. Training & Inspection Services). Chennai,

Mobile nos: 0 94449 71097, 0 7406 326326, 0 94445 21267.

 

 

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Subject: Re: [MW:22762] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...

 

Dear Abdul Ghani,

Make a list of all essential variables, testing requirements and acceptance criteria, check whether single testing can be done? if not you may have to create multiple samples (make sure you weld a coupon big enough). now weld the coupon as per required size and test according to multiple code/standard requirements and prepare multiple Records. Good Luck.

Please update the forum about the results.

Expect the experts to comments.


 

With Best Regards,
Umar Rashid Makrani, PMP
® ,

NACE CIP-2, LEEA Registered Engineer.

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Mohammed Ghani <ghani386@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear sir,

 

I have to prepare a single PQR using ASME, AWS and EN 15614. can we prepare such PQR ?

if yes, please let me know which are the main points need to considered. like (thickness, P Number, Group Number, Impact testing). which code is more stringent?

 

also if possible, refer a code. 

Kindly do needful.

 

Thanks and regards,

Mohammed Ghani.

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:50 PM, <george.dilintas@gr.bureauveritas.com> wrote:

please be more specific

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ghanicwi---26/01/2015 14:25:59---Dear experts, can we prepare as PQR based on ASME, AWS, and EN standards?

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Date: 26/01/2015 14:25
Subject: [MW:22758] can we prepare new PQR with ASME and AWS and EN standard?...
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Dear experts,

can we prepare as PQR based on ASME, AWS, and EN standards?
If yes, then which are the qualifications (limits) and test are differs with respect to ASME standards,

Kindly do needful.

Mohammed Ghani

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