Dear Mr Hussain
For Soaking temp Following is my explaination which is concluded from varios AI/AIS (eralier I was also objecting to Temp range but later got convinced due to various actual Impact value results verses Temp ranges)
i) As such it is not clear about the temp band in ASME code but every time it is raised the question and objected for following condition
a) If you have qualified the PQR of P1 with PWHT temp say 600-615C then you can not use the PWHT temp at say 650 C even it is below lower critical temp as technicaly the Impact valuse diffrer(Some time it deteorates the UTS and also Impact ) Therefore indirectly we reqquire to restrict the temp band as per qualified PQR This is metallurgical explanation
b) Now from where this 14Degree comes from? If you refer Mandatory Appendix 31 of ASME sec VIIIDiv 1 you will see that it restricts the Temp band for Two condition for PQR qualification for LAS P5A This explaination Holds good and convincing to any spec. whcih I followed later
Hope this will clear your doubts
Regards
Hegde P.B.
Welding Consultant
Pune
From: Tariq Hussain <tariqhussain632@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 January 2013 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:16435] QW407.2 (ASME Sec. IX)
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 January 2013 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MW:16435] QW407.2 (ASME Sec. IX)
Dear Mr Hegde,
Thanks for your reply and interest in the subject.
1. Yes that is very basic thing that QW-407.2 is only applicable in case of Impact testing requirements are YES for Production welds / Components.
2. For Soaking Time, it is OK and clearly written in Code. But I think PQR soak time should be at least 80% of that required for Production Welds. There is no question about it.
3. Regarding Soaking Time, Can you please give some reference / logic for controlling Temperature with 14 Degrees?
Regards
Tariq Hussain
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Prakash Hegde <pb.hegde@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Mr HussainPWHT QW 407.2 is applicable in case of suplimentary essential i.e. When Weld has to undergo Impact test6In this case Soaking time for Production coupon or ajob should be at least 80% of the soaking time of relevent PQR qualified And Soaking Temp should be with in 14 degree of the of the soaking temp of PQR qualified (i.e If your PQR is qualified at Soaking temp say 600-615C then your Job / Test coupon also should be heated in thyis range and Not at say above 615C Even though this temp is below AC1RegardsHegde P.B.+91880559304From: Tariq Hussain <tariqhussain632@gmail.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013 5:26 PM
Subject: [MW:16407] QW407.2 (ASME Sec. IX)
Dear All,We need little help from you regarding below query for ASME Sec. IX QW-407.2Is it intention of QW-407.2 to have Production Welds Soak Temperature (Vessel Soak temperature) exactly same as that of done in PQR test Coupon?Thanks in AdvanceTariq Hussain--
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