Re: [MW:9555] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65

Mr.Muthu,

Since your material is API 5L X65 you can try the following combination,

1. SMAW - E 8018 G (OK 74.70) from ESAB - Take it from Sweden plant.

2. SAW consumables from Lincoln Electric.

AWS Class F8A/P8 - E Ni5 - Ni5

Trade Names
P240 - Flux
LNS 165 - Wire

From the chemical composition you listed, the Carbon Equivalent value comes to around 0.38.

Preheat the joint around 100 Deg. C, Interpass 250 Deg.C Max.

Since your Diameters are 48" and 36" are you going to back chip from the inside to ensure complete penetration? If yes then you can use OK 74.70.

I you dont have access towards the root side of the weld joint, I will recommend you to use ER 70S 6 or ER 70S2 (GTAW), do not use cellulose electrodes for the root passes.

What ever consumable that has been mentioned above, please make sure that all of them meets the minimum specified properties of the base material (X65).

Both the SMAW and SAW conusmables mentioned above will definitely meet your requirement of X65 and for ER 70S 6 or ER 70S 2 you'll have to talk to the manufacturer / dealer.

Make sure you get conusmable TC batch tested (Both mechanical and chemical), do not accept batch TC's showing typical values.

Hope this helps,

Regards,

A.Praveen
Muscat

--- On Sat, 1/29/11, Siegbert Hafenscherer <siegbert.hafenscherer@welding-alloys.com> wrote:

> From: Siegbert Hafenscherer <siegbert.hafenscherer@welding-alloys.com>
> Subject: [MW:9551] AW: 9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65
> To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 9:54 PM
> Dear Mr. Muthu,
>
> It seems you need a usual welding material like
> E71T-1M/E71T-1
>
> Siegbert
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
> Im Auftrag von Raghuram Bathula
> Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2011 14:14
> An: Materials & Welding
> Betreff: [MW:9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding
> consumables SAW and
> SMAW for API 5L X65
>
> Be explicit about your question
> Open-ended questions tend to be perceived as open-ended
> time sinks.
> Those people most likely to be able to give you a useful
> answer are
> also the busiest people.
> You are more likely to get a useful response if you are
> explicit about
> what you want respondents to do (provide pointers, send
> info,
> whatever). This will focus their effort and implicitly put
> an upper
> bound on the time and energy a respondent must allocate to
> helping
> you. This is good.
> To understand the world the experts live in, think of
> expertise as an
> abundant resource and time to respond as a scarce one. The
> less of a
> time commitment you implicitly ask for, the more likely you
> are to get
> an answer from someone really good and really busy.
>
> On Jan 29, 12:32 pm, "muthu barathi" <muthu_bara...@rediffmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Sir
> >
> > Actually this material is for Piling work. We are
> constructing a new
> > jetty . Steel Pile material is API - 5 L PSL - 2 /
> Grade X-65 . Pile
> > size OD - 1219mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm and also
> other size OD -
> > 914mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm.
> >
> > Now I want make a WPS by carrying out PQR . So I am
> searching based on
> > the sample pipe's MTC. The reading I have given is
> replica of MTC and
> > the is certified by Lloyds Surveyor too.
> >
> > Now please tell me the correct welding electrode for
> SMAW and wire and
> > flux for SAW process. As per API 5L PSL 2 / Grade 65.
> the requirement -
> >
> > X 65 -  YS - 448 MPa.   TS - 531 MPa.   EL% - 23 -
> Impact at 0 deg.C    
> > 27 Joules.      C - 0.22        Mn - 1.45    
>   P- 0.025        
> > S- 0.015        Ti - 0.06
> >
> > Approved brands electrodes - ESAB and OERLIKON from
> these consumables
> > shall be selected.
> >
> > While testing PQR it should not fail.
> >
> > Expecting your mail shortly.
> >
> > Thanking You.
> >
> > With Regards,
> >
> > Muthu Barathi P
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:28:26 +0530  wrote
> >
> >
> > Mr. Muthu,
> >
> > What's the applicable specification for this
> material,
> > ASTM/ASME/EN or any proprietary grade for any client
> or any vendor's
> > specification.The elongation and impact properties
> asked are highly
> > un-realistic. You never get a Carbon or Low Alloy
> steel with 46%
> > elongation
> > requirement, also, impact requirement is extremely
> high.
> >
> > I would say, if you have any design paper work, which
> > indicates the grade or heat treatment of this steel
> the correct AWS
> > type of
> > welding consumables, SAW wire+flux specification etc
> could be worked
> > out.
> > Otherwise YOU SHOULD NEVER CHOOSE WELDING CONSUMABLES
> BASED ON THE
> > CHEMICAL
> > COMPOSITION ALONE.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE
> > Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
> > & Consultant
> > Ontario, Canada.
> > Email-pgosw...@sympatico.ca,
> > pgosw...@quickclic.net
> >
> >
> >
> > From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Pablo J
> > Acelajado>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:08
> AM
> > >To:
> >
> > materials-welding@googlegroups.com>Subject:
> RE: [MW:9529] Requirement
> >
> > of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW
> >
> >
> >
> > January 27,
> > 2011
> >
> > Hello there!
> >
> > This material is very strong one. I think
> > the welding consumable suppliers can best answer this
> question.
> >
> > My understanding is that the percentage
> > elongationis not required for the weld.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Best regards.
> > PJA
> >
> > From:
> > materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Kathalingam
> > Babu>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:10
> > PM
> > >To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [MW:9526] Requirement of
> >
> > suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > The elongation requirement is very stringent, it is
> very
> > difficult to meet 46%, you have consult with the
> specific consumable
> > suppliers
> > to get 46%
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> >
> > K. Babu
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> >
> >   From: muthu barathi
> >
> >   To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> >
> >   Sent: Thursday,
> >   January 27, 2011 4:36 PM
> >
> >   Subject: [MW:9523]
> >   Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW
> and
> >   SMAW
> >
> >   Hi Friends,
> >
> > >Let me get your expertise of
> >
> >   selection of welding consumables in
> this>regard.
> >
> > >The base material
> >
> >   Chemical properties as given under (%):
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >C - 0.066
> > >Si - 0.26
> > >Mn -
> >   1.55
> > >P - 0.014
> > >S - 0.004
> > >Al - 0.046
> > >Cr - 0.186
> > >Ni - 0.015
> > >Mo
> >   - 0.002
> > >Cu - 0.020
> > >V - 0.057
> > >Nb - 0.065
> > >Ti - 0.020
> > >N -
> >   0.007
> > >B - 0.00025
> > >Ca - 0.0025
> > >CE - 0.371
> >
> > >MECHANICAL
> >   PROPERTIES
> > >YIELD STRENGTH - 516 MPa
> > >TENSILE STRENGTH - 625
> >   MPa.
> > >ELONG % - 46
> > >IMOPACT
> >
> >   - (-) 10 DEGREE C - 250 JOULES
> >
> > >NOW PLEASE TELL ME, WHICH
> >
> >   ELECTRODE FOR SMAW (BRAMDS ESAB, OERLIKON)>AND
> SAW - FLUX AND WIRE WILL
> >
> >   SUIT AND PASS PQR TEST FOR PREPARATION OF
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >WPS?
> >
> > >PLEASE
> >   HELP.
> > >THANKING YOU.
> >
> > >Dear
> >   Sir,
> >
> > >Thanking You,
> >
> > >Honesty is the best
> >   Policy
> >
> > >With Warm Regards,
> >
> > >Muthu Barathi P
> > >Mobile
> >
> >   No:00962788269821 (Jordan)
> >
> > >00962775401951
> >
> >  
>
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