Saturday, January 22, 2011

[MW:9393] RE: 9389] RE: 9372] AC welding for P5A & P5C

Hi Bhavesh,

Is your SAW wire flux combinations based on the Japanese Supplier(Kobelco)? Traditionally  Alternating Current power sources had been very popular with Japanese, I would say the concept originated with them. I'm talking about mid 1980's since when I started working.The advantages of AC being:-

  • Cheaper power sources , AC. power sources would not require the rectification to convert to DC.
  • Accordingly fluxes were formulated to suit AC.
  • Moderate/Controlled  penetration as compared to DC.The penetration characteristics are DC(+ve) most, DC(-ve) least, AC in between.This(penetration) controls base metal dilution and heat input and accordingly notch toughness may be better. However notch toughness  property is not controlled by the power source type alone e.g A.C or D.C, because welding wire flux also have big role to play here.
  • If  the welding process is Tandem Sub Arc, then the trail arc is usually AC, to prevent Arc Blow.
  • AC/AC tandem arc is also quite common with Japanese fabricators
The materials you mentioned are used a lot in the refining industry.For hydro processing applications there're strict control on residuals and impurities. Some consumable manufacturers formulate  wire flux combinations only  for  AC power sources, while others  could meet such requirements with DC also.
 
The end result is that both DC and AC are feasible options for welding of those steels. The choice of AC over DC could be influenced by the welding consumable manufacturers' recommendations also.
 
Thanks.
 

Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.
Welding & Metallurgical Specialist & Consultant
Email-pgoswami@sympatico.ca,
pgoswami@quickclic.net

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From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of amitabha.bhattacharya
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:04 AM
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Subject: [MW:9389] RE: 9372] AC welding for P5A & P5C

Hi Bhavesh,
You may expect higher toughness values with AC welding for CrMo-steels.
Thanks
Amitabha

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Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:55 PM
To: Materials & Welding
Subject: [MW:9372] AC welding for P5A & P5C

Dear All,


Why we are using AC current for SAW welding in low alloy steel (Mainly for P5A & P5C) ?

Kindly share your valuable input.


Regards,
Bhavesh Patel
ISGEC, Dahej

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