Tuesday, October 12, 2010

Re: [MW:7510] Re: MTC Review


Dear Mr. Limesh,
                           As i understand your query is about MTC. So if the MTC is not what you wanted, you can straight away reject the material. In case you had already ordered it, get it tested in a lab for all the required mechanical tests according to EN10025-2 for 3.1 or 3.2 certification.

2010/10/12 hpi001 <pieper-qsi@kpnmail.nl>
Dear Limesh,

According to EN 10204 you can also have 2.1 and 2.2 documents.

2.1 -->  Declaration of compliance with the order --> Mill only
declares on a EN 10204 - 2.1 document that materials delivered are in
compliance with the purchase order, for this no test mechanical test
are required and/or specified on the document.

2.2 --> Test Report --> Mill declares on a EN 10240 - 2.2 document
that materials delivered are in compliance with the purchase order,
there will be mechanical properties and chemical composition present
on the document but those are typical values for those materials not
measured on the actual heat and often obtained from history data.

These documents can be drawn up by the manufacturer and no from
production independent Quality Department is required for such.

You are correct regarding the difference between 3.1 and 3.2 that for
3.2 a third party will witness testing and signing the certificate.
For both 3.1 and 3.2 a from production independent Quality Department
is required. All values mentioned on 3.1 and 3.2 certificates are
obtained from tests performed on the actual heat / charge No.

Regards

Herman

On 12 okt, 11:54, limesh M <limes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Herman Sir,
>
> I heard about 3.1 AND 3.2 certificates only.
>
> 3.1 Supplied by manufacturer's independant QA/QC Wing itself(Contains
> Chemical test,Mechanical test,Non destructive test ,Manufacturing
> process,Heat Number).
>
> 3.2 Supplied by Manufacturers QA/QC Wing with third party
> certification(Contains Chemical test,Mechanical test,Non destructive test
> ,Manufacturing process,Heat Number).
>
> ie, the difference is only third party certification.This is my
> understanding. If I am wrong ,please correct me.
>
> What is this 2.2 certificate?I have no idea.
>
> Regards,
>
> Limesh
>

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